Prince Andrew Can't Sweat

Atqui - of course anyone is entitled to their views, but you cannot expect others not to judge them on those views. That's what forums like this are all about. But I'd hoped we could all be adult enough to realise that we can debate these issues without resorting to personal attacks (which I don't think anyone has done).

* Annibach* You entitled to your views as much as anyone else on this thread, without being judged .

Latest developments in the Giuffre v Windsor lawsuit.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jan/01/prince-andrew-lawsuit-virginia-giuffre-effort-block-rejected

I am not supporting Andrew and have said so, I do not believe
Giuffrie and have said so.

Either way .

That photo proves nothing eithervwsy

I think the young women in porn films and in brothels are told to look happy or they'll be beaten up or worse. Photos can be very misleading.
I can't imagine anyone supporting sleazy Andrew, I really hope he's going to get his come uppance.

There are possibly other people who dare not post who would agree with Annie. None of us knows for sure what went on .

I’ve seen so many photographs of children with sparkly eyes, looking happy and relaxed. The allegations these children made around the time the photographs were taken, or made as teenagers, confirm how good many victims are at hiding their pain.
That one image of VG with PA has been referenced on these discussions many times, as ‘proof’ VG was a willing participant, or is lying.

As his Mum said ‘ recollections may vary’.

Let’s face it if he had nothing to hide he would have gone to the USA and answered their questions.

On the other hand I would expect to see all of the named people in Maxwells little black book to be questioned as well and not just His Smugness. I’m sure the lady in question wasn’t just introduced to him so why isn’t she suing the others as well?

I guess what Espee means is they weren’t making love

Anniebach

A girl who has just been forced to have sex with a man would not have a sparkle in her eyes

And how do you know that particular photo was taken right after such an event? You seem determined to argue PA's case at all costs, Anniebach.

I also saw a programme with Richard Carpenter speaking about his sister, Karen.
He said she could literally switch into singing mode, and conjure up her poignant voice in an instant.

Annie's song; apparently written very, very quickly to try and smooth over yet another misdemeanor - and yet it is such a breathtaking song.

Never judge a book by it's cover, I would say.
I watched an interesting documentary about page 3 girls, and some of their tales would make your hair stand on and.
How did they look in their photos?

MissAdventure

If gransnet was more sensitive and allowed some privacy to its users, I would post a picture of my girl just after she was told her cancer was terminal.
Nobody would ever have known.

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That was in answer to AnnieBach.

MissAdventure

I'm sure members of gransnet who had awful relationships with coersive husbands appear happy at times, and probably have photos suggesting as much.

It upsets me to look at old photos of my parents as even though my Mum is smiling I can tell she often looks scared

Maybe it was before she did it?

If gransnet was more sensitive and allowed some privacy to its users, I would post a picture of my girl just after she was told her cancer was terminal.
Nobody would ever have known.

A girl who has just been forced to have sex with a man would not have a sparkle in her eyes

Every child growing up in every household will have different reactions , traits, likes & dislikes, differing attributes or lack of any endearing ones , different emotions, different opinions & differing behaviours they may also share similar behaviours & attitudes.
Our live’s take us on different journeys, wither we are rich or poor or anything in between.
Perhaps there should be a mandatory check on the condition of each of our moral compasses at different stages of our lives, whereupon we could benefit from a refresher course if found to be severely lacking in this vital component.

I'm sure members of gransnet who had awful relationships with coersive husbands appear happy at times, and probably have photos suggesting as much.

Giuffrie looks really happy in the photograph, she kept it for years too

Or had sexual intercourse with

Didn’t