Royal Thread the Second- Tiaras Optional! ?

And let's not forget she was an actress so she's used to playing a part.
Yes, Meghan was trained in that craft so can adapt to situations at the drop of a hat. Also she was nearing 40 years old. Diana was naive and ill equipped to deal with things. Harry needs to understand the difference.
I'm not saying Meghan wasn't unhappy, but she had the tools to manipulate her husband whereas Diana didn't.

^The experience of the emotion cannot be judged by how obvious it is, or crying by the number or amount of tears shed.
It's once again just an excuse to attack Meghan.^

No, it's not.... I am just going by what Meghan said herself.

I don’t know Meghan so I’ve no idea about her mental health or whether she cried through a whole performance with no outward signs. My only experience is dealing with DD’s mental health issues, which don’t go away.
Will we hear more about MM’s mental health problems, caused by coming to the UK for a Christening, (which may well have really taken place in the US a few days previously)?
Is she trying to show those with mental health issues that you can actually pull yourself together and get on with a very public life?

And let's not forget she was an actress so she's used to playing a part.
You said it, Lucca. Meghan has dissembled, been economical with the truth and told outright lies, thus losing all credibility. She is permanently playing a part, that of being a victim.
If you want an example of someone who recognises the 'professional necessity for looking OK' you have HRH the Queen, a woman who has carried on through crisis after crisis but who would never, ever discuss her feelings in public.

Sparklefizz

Meghan has been caught out in so many lies and exaggerations that it's hard to believe a word she says which is why I mentioned her claim to have cried all the way through the performance ... there is no way she could have done that without (a) people around her noticing and discreetly helping her away somewhere more private, and (b) repairing all her makeup which would have needed to be done, because she was shown socialising afterwards looking immaculate.

I have been depressed and suffered from panic attacks myself, and have had to put on "a brave face", and would always respect someone else's feelings, but M always has to embellish her stories. I have never claimed to cry for a couple of hours when it is patently not true.

How on earth do you know that? Crying can be done in many ways. I've seen it as just a couple of tears quickly blotted away, and as waterfalls of tears and snot, both are valid. The experience of the emotion cannot be judged by how obvious it is, or crying by the number or amount of tears shed.
It's once again just an excuse to attack Meghan.

Galaxy sorry your friend as mental health issues.

You speak of the start of an episode, would you have noticed if
she was crying during that evening out ?

Thanks Trisher. My closest friend has complex mental health issues and certainly myself and some of her other friends cant believe we missed the start of an episode on an evening out.

FannyCornforth

There are loads of RF based shows on 5 this evening
The one about William and Harry is one and a half hours long
As is the one about Charles and Diana’s wedding
In fact, I think that is worth taping

Thanks Fanny. I watched the C&D one. I was actually somewhere in that crowd and at the Hyde Park fireworks!
I thought Diana looked scared stiff in the build up. She must have felt terrified, trapped and full of misgivings. There was no way out. I'm not sure this was actually depression, but others might know more.

Meghan has been caught out in so many lies and exaggerations that it's hard to believe a word she says which is why I mentioned her claim to have cried all the way through the performance ... there is no way she could have done that without (a) people around her noticing and discreetly helping her away somewhere more private, and (b) repairing all her makeup which would have needed to be done, because she was shown socialising afterwards looking immaculate.

I have been depressed and suffered from panic attacks myself, and have had to put on "a brave face", and would always respect someone else's feelings, but M always has to embellish her stories. I have never claimed to cry for a couple of hours when it is patently not true.

Don’t understand what a 1964 horror film has to do with it

Yes she is an actress , Bette Davis was brilliant in ‘Hush,Hush
Sweet Charlotte ‘ too

“ Making someone's mental health the subject of jokes for your own amusement isn't acceptable.”. Unless it is Meghan of course, then all bets are off.

So all of you poor people suffering from depression didn't have to work while you were ill? Well weren't you lucky! Many of us put on our best face, got the kids ready for school and went out to earn our daily bread just like Meghan did. It's a mistake to think you can read anyone's mental health from the face they present to the public, for some of us it's a professional necessity to look OK. And let's not forget she was an actress so she's used to playing a part. Making someone's mental health the subject of jokes for your own amusement isn't acceptable.
I wonder how you would have felt if I had turned up during your depression and told you to "Cheer up". You would have regarded that s unacceptable. Well so are remarks about someone not looking unhappy. Each case of depression is different and you have absolutely no right to judge anyone.

^We mustn’t forget , Meg told Haz she wanted to commit suicide the same evening they went to a do in the Albert Hall,
so brave, put on her makeup, posh frock and even mixed with
guests after the do.^

Also she said that as soon as the lights went down at that function, she sat there with tears rolling down her face although it seems the person sitting the other side of her noticed nothing, and Meghan must have quietly repaired all her makeup in time for the lights to go up again and for her to socialise.

If the Queen didn’t attend Archie’s christening when they were living close by at Windsor, I can’t imagine it would look odd if she didn’t attend this one.

As someone said upthread, let the baby be christened in USA, preferably by the bishop who lectured at their wedding about the meaning of lurve.

An update would be timely.

On the news this morning they said that Harry and Megan would like to have the christening over here(uk) in front of the Queen.
How do we know that? Did someone hear them talking about it over breakfast then leak it to the press? I dont think so. Also now they have put that out they have put the Queen in a very difficult postion. If she refuses she looks bad to all the M and H fans, and they will go on Oprah again saying look I told you so everything we said was true about the RF. I bet the Queen is fuming. What a conniving pair they are.

Blossoming

Is this christening actually happening, or is it a rumour?

Doesn’t matter !

Hi Maddyone, sorry about all that. I know quite a bit about depression too and I am sorry you are feeling down. I agree with you about Megan’s surprisingly cheerful appearance after her ‘suicidal’ thoughts. I always thought it strange that she suffered with those thoughts during pregnancy, just the same way her mother in law had. Talk about rubbing Harry’s nose in it. It’s very coincidental and to me it suggested a deliberate manipulation of Harry.

Oh my word, I apologise then. Many apologies. I really thought you didn’t believe I knew about depression, which I really wish I didn’t. It’s a horrible condition. I didn’t think you really did eat toast and marmalade in Windsor Castle. I’m glad you did, sorry misunderstanding on my part.
But what a story to tell the grandchildren.

Maddyone, why would the true story of me eating marmalade on toast in Windsor castle’s dining room be a comment against you? I was in the police and was covering Order of the Garter ceremony and we all had breakfast before it started. Just thought I would throw in a random comment.

Haha Callistemon, you could very well be right. Somehow I don’t think he’ll quite fit Meghan’s bill though.
After the three days earlier debacle I somehow think the Archbishop of Canterbury won’t be first in the queue to Christen the baby either. He’ll heave a sigh of relief and let someone else do it I imagine.

maddyone

Who knows Blossoming, but it is traditional for the RF to get their babies Christened in an Anglican Church, so that wouldn’t be surprising. But to try to cash in on the royal connection again is so poor. There are perfectly good churches in America.

What about the lovely bishop who gave a sermon at Meghan and Harry's wedding?

Bishop Michael Curry, he was great and could make a christening service such fun.

Bluebellwould, are you accusing me of untruths?

I’ve had marmalade on toast in Windsor castle!

I have suffered from depression and so I know a bit about it. No way was she feeling suicidal and then going out and smiling. I know about smiling depression but no one goes from suicidal depression to smiling depression in an hour. She’s been caught out with so many lies, this is just another one. She plays the victim and cries crocodile tears. She’s an actress.