Have I just lost a friend?

How do they even know whether a vaccine will work fully anyway? Each year they give flu jabs,but still people die from it.each year people still catch different strains of it.

I agree, pleased you spoke your mind. It annoys me when I see people in our village not sticking to the rules. When we’re out on our walk I make an effort to walk o the other side of the road if we are going to pass someone, but other people don’t. We try to go when we think it’s quite after teatime. I get annoyed when I see one of our neighbours who has COPD and in the beginning told me if she caught it she’s a dead woman, then I see her talking over the fence to a neighbour a few doors away, not social distancing at all. I don’t give her a the chance to talk to me

It could be the 80 year old husband is a retired doctor? They need all hands on deck remember?!

We are just short of 3m worldwide deaths (probably far worse as I cannot believe China's figure!) Does she not realises that?

Yangtse1007 Report him yourself and help her to get out if it is that bad and you are concerned for her safety? I am sure you can do it anonymously ....

I had a phone call, this evening, from a friend who’s son died from the virus three weeks ago. Her sister, who lives in a nursing home, has now also got it. Her general health isn’t good, so she is almost certain to die, too.

Your friend’s attitude is more than disgusting, and it would serve her right if members of her family caught it, though I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.

Please thank your husband for his selfless dedication to the welfare of the rest of us.
Your friend may be having a panic attack, but is being completely unreasonable.
I am in awe of the people taking risks with their own safety to help people like me. The least we can do is to stay home and make as little work as possible for others and to be grateful for the help we are getting.

Did nobody else read that this posters other half of 80 and working on the front line? I think she has more problems closer to home than a fed up friend.

Think you really find out at times like these the true character of people and are they really worth your friendship? I think not!

We know 3 people who have died from this virus .2 were foster carers .thr other my older sister .we have been isolating for 7 weeks not been Out at all . .we have vunerable children .of course we miss our children grand children .but would never risk it .maybe she was having 1 of them days .i would ring and ask how she is . maybe she is embarrassed now .if she is a good friend .and just needed to vent

The person I'm getting frustrated with is my father. He thinks the rules don't apply to him and he is carrying on doing whatever he likes. He does not drive but my mother goes along with whatever he wants for a quiet life. He is a nasty piece of work. I don't say anything controversial to him to protect my mother. In reality I would like to tell him exactly what I think of him and his behaviour. I would love a neighbour to report them.

Your friend is making a HUGE assumption she can get on and catch it and then be immune ! Sadly it maybe isn’t the case and that will complicate things until there is a vaccine ! As Angela Merkel said we don’t want to exhaust ourselves we have to stay calm and understand it might take a while to get through this

I think you were absolutely right - she is being stupid and selfish.

We are all finding this lockdown hard and frustrating but the majority of us why we are doing this so no you arent being silly.
When she has thought about what she has said she will no doubt call you and apologise...if not then you can always get in touch and say you understand her rant but remind her that she needs to do this for her GC
Whatever your husband is doing hope he stays safe and well tio

re the 20K hospital deaths from covid, he pointed out that in nearly 6 yrs of the second world war, this country lost 60K civilians.
makes you think doesn't it.

Yes, yes, it certainly does - and they estimate the true total deaths could be nearer 40k in these few months - including all those in the community not in the figures.

Sounds like your friend is a weak person. She hasn’t been able to deal with the limitations and wanted your “permission” to break them by your agreeing with her. I wouldn’t fret. She’ll come around.

WTH? She sounds like a six year old "i cant go out & have an icecream!" What a horrible selfish person she sounds- i wouldnt bother about a friend like that ExD,she,and others like her, are the ones keeping it going,and keeping it killing! Ive heard this week of most of a neighbourhood (not mine) who have started going in & out of each others houses,mingling-having stayed in for about five minutes- and heard of someone i know (dont live near me thank God)who was still visiting people at first despite having a hubby waiting for a kidney transplant! I fear we will all end up succumbing to the virus if these idiots carry on as they are.

She sounds very stubborn and selfish and I can imagine many people may feel like this fustrated that they can't do the most simplest things that they did before.

But this is an invisible war; yes I'm repeating my self and we all have our part to play.

Someone put up about how intrusive the news is going into wards filming the sick but this is exactly the person that needs to sit and watch it. This isn't about one selfish person or any selfish person this is about being totally responsible, patient and playing your own part whether that's isolating, shielding, working from home or being a keyworker. Stickler for rules.

P.s I'm sure you will be friends again she just wanted you to agree with her. Keep being you. Take Care

notanan2 - you seem to have some very strange ideas sometimes.
Not that strange since increasing numbers agree both here and around the world.

We all need to do our part in trying to prevent it spreading more and killing more.
Lockdowns do not actually achieve that. They may possibly cause more deaths not less.

Crimpedhalo’ I don’t understand why you are so angry with your friend who is in the nhs and drove to take her dog for a peaceful walk at 7am? What’s wrong with that? Am I missing something? Was she endangering anyone? Wasn’t she looking after herself and dog, very well? Which is what we should all do? So we have enough strength to look after others?
As for the OP wasn’t your friend just wanting you to agree with her on an ‘ain’t it awful level’ and then you both agree that it has to be done? Just having a safe private rant? I’m sure she wasn’t asking for your authority to do or not do.
It’s very likely that we will be told soon that lockdown must end because it is bad for business. I would prefer it to carry on but this might happen. They would say that the danger of the nhs being overwhelmed is over and we will have to return to some kind of normalcy. Things will never be the same though. We will all have to look after ourselves and each other the best we can.

notanan2 - you seem to have some very strange ideas sometimes. Viruses may be self limiting but I would hate to have to say that to the people who have lost family or friends through this current virus. This is uncharted territory we are in now and most of the countries of the World are fighting this virus. We all need to do our part in trying to prevent it spreading more and killing more.

heard peter hennessey on broadcasting house this morning.
re the 20K hospital deaths from covid, he pointed out that in nearly 6 yrs of the second world war, this country lost 60K civilians.
makes you think doesn't it.
and it's good that the guardian is now stating the figures as hospital deaths; there are bound to be many more than that.

Tell your friend that before she goes out to put in her handbag a note addressed to the hospital to the effect if she becomes infected because of her idiotic behaviour and she is seriously ill then she authorises them not to administer any life saving treatment . That she accepts full responsibility for whatever occurs to her.

Do you need a friend like this in all honesty?

She is being very selfish you are better of without friends like that.

Well done, ExD. I've heard an elderly person (i.e. older than me) say "If I get it, I get it, I've had a good life" or words to that effect, with no thought to the medics who would (presumably) have to treat her, and overlooking the fact that it's a horrendous death.