Beyond belief

Do you have a for sale sign Lucky?
If you were to remove the sign, the man may believe that your house is no longer on the market.

We have always refused the estate agent sign,.
That includes the two occasions when we sold houses belonging to our father.

My sister also sold without the use of estate agent board.

Good luck

I agree with others. This seems very fishy

Poor you Lucky what a worry. It doesn’t seem fair that you position yourself nearby with a camera, like Miss Marple, to ‘catch him’.

Can you get a second estate agent to try to sell the house? I think you are allowed more than one - and the one that sells it gets the commission?

Something here is fishy. I agree what was said upthread - how would this man just happen to be passing by? Too much of a coincidence.

This is a civil matter, the Police are very unlikely to get involved.
Taking photographs of people can be construed as an invasion of privacy.
It can also antagonise, this is not advisable when living alone and your address is known.
My advice is to reiterate to your agent what has happened and explain that the ball is in his court to sort the problem and either secure the sale or find another buyer.

If you have any way of contacting the people you bought from they will surely remember the person who tried to scam them. Try to find him, he may well deny he approached your buyers but at least he will be aware he has been caught out. Horrible thing to do, horrible person. You will get through all this, take time there will be another buyer. Look after yourself.

Such a shame you didn’t insist on a surveyors report from the previous owners when you purchased your home - it may have seemed an unnecessary request at the time, but you have to look at it like an insurance policy. Still, you didn’t get one when you bought, so you can’t cry over spilt milk!

You say your estate agent has not only got the listing to sell your current house but is also the agent for the new home that you want to buy and is currently being built.

My recommendation would be to shop around to get a written estimate for having the survey done immediately - then call your estate agent as soon as you have that in your hand and ask him to split the cost with you - 50 - 50 (because he will be making double commission if you are selling AND buying through him).

This is not an unreasonable request but a wise business move on your part. If he refuses, then investigate getting another estate agent and list your home at the recommended price plus the cost of the survey.

You will need to prove whoever buys your house that it is sound and in good order. As I said, a surveyors report is like only in the bank to you in your current situation.

My first thought is that it could be a ruse by your prospective buyers...to save them paying for a comprehensive survey iro £800.....or to drive down the price of your home.

Believe to or not there are scammers scanning the obituary columns for vulnerable sellers. Plz take care.

Wise words, Missfoodlove.
I think the last thing you need Lucky is any more stress, which would certainly happen, if you were to track this person down and try to tackle him. Even if he’s only acting out of malice, without any criminal intent, he’s very likely to respond aggressively to being questioned about his motives.

I’m afraid that not all estate agents are as ethical as they might be, and they don’t have to be registered any regulatory body.
It’s perhaps unfortunate that the agent you’re using is the one who’s selling the property you want to move to. Perhaps if you intimate to him that you think there’s shady business going on in an attempt to reduce the price, it will focus his mind into acting in your interests instead of someone else’s.

Although a prospective buyer will probably want their own survey doing, the only way you’ll know whether this man’s claims have any basis in fact is to pay for a survey yourself.
If it turns out that there are problems, you’ll be in a better position to argue when it comes to lowering the asking price, rather than feeling you have to take the word of the buyer’s surveyor.

Bear in mind that depending on the age of the house, a surveyor can always find something wrong, and if they’re acting for a buyer they will paint a worse picture than if the survey has been commissioned by the seller.

Are you really sure you want to sell just now? What would be the worst that could happen if you gave it six months?

If I give it 6 months the house that I want to buy would be gone - people are queuing up for them. This estate agent is trying to hold off the builder from selling to someone else.

I contacted the estate again today and said that I found the whole business just too much of a coincidence and was not at all happy with the situation. He wants to come round on Thursday morning and take a look at the bedroom that has been reported by this crazy guy as needing underpinning. If he thinks there is a good reason to get someone in to just look at that bit then he will suggest I do that.

I will see what he says; but my inclination is to tell him to tell the potential buyers that I accept their offer and if they want to proceed they must get their own survey.

A bit of me fears that I am a recently bereaved woman on my own and somebody somewhere is taking the piss.

Yes they are Luckygirl!

National estate agent chain firms are motivated by their targets and the need to sell mortgages, conveyancing, surveys etc. I'm very suspicious of the suggestion that you need to get a survey - that's for the buyers to do!

Sounds odd that this guy knew the exact moment somebody was viewing - is it possible this is a set up by the prospective buyers to get you to pay for the survey? I’d ignore them - if they want it they’ll pay. And there’ll be more buyers.

Some estate agents are just that and not surveyors as well.

In the old days they were estate agents and surveyors but I doubt that there are many of the old school left.

I remember being told that people were queuing up to buy the new build we wanted - no, they were not and we did decide on another one anyway.

I will see what he says; but my inclination is to tell him to tell the potential buyers that I accept their offer and if they want to proceed they must get their own survey
So you haven’t lost them altogether?
It is absolutely normal for the purchaser to have the survey done -not the vendor , go with that. If they then try to reduce their offer based on a bona fide survey, then it is up to you to choose to negotiate or not.
If there is subsidence you may be able to claim on your buildings insurance anyway but at the moment this is all Chinese whispers.
Incidentally I would not recommend you go along with all the cloak and dagger/photographing their number plate/ conspiracy theory stuff.
Your agent needs you to sell so that you can purchase the next property. It should be as simple as that.
Do not spend more money at present!
Leave it at that.

I don't believe the buyers.
They went out to measure a gate. Really?
And at that very moment, someone drives by and tells them that there's a problem with your house. Rubbish!
I think the buyers are either trying to get a large reduction in the price or get you to pay for a survey.
I smell a rat!

Yes, rather suspicious

I assume if a bedroom needs underpinning then the property is a bungalow.
I think I’m right in saying underpinning or piling is for the whole footprint of the property not just one section.

I agree with others. See if there are any independant EAs about. The chains dont make their money on sales they make it on pushing the extras and financial/legal packages

I wouldnt agree to have him round to "have a look" if your heckles are up.

An EA we turned down after valuatiom actively told people not to buy our house whilst still bombarding us with calls asking if we would reconsider selling through them!

Do not give them any amunition

What qualifications does the Estate Agent have that would make him expert on whether the bedroom needs underpinning?
Have you seen any tell tale signs?

Id be finding my own independent surveyor

I'd be ignoring it completely and having no unnecessary survey done. Accept the offer and the ball is in their court.
The bank will release funds for the funeral. The care home will have to wait for their money. If you feel unsafe in your home, a chat with the local police will help.

You say that 'This estate agent is trying to hold off the builder from selling to someone else.' Have you spoken to the builder directly? Don't ever trust anybody but let the builder know when you've accepted an offer.

It is a small independent estate agent.

If I tell him to just tell the buyers that I have accepted their offer, then if they like it enough they will get on and have their own survey. I just have to accept that this may lose me a buyer, but I cannot be messed around like this - I have enough on my plate.

I do not believe the coincidence either.

Probably best to follow normal procedures; the prospective buyers will probably arrange for a survey anyway and pay for it themselves.

I’m with Callistemon - do not give in to any suggestion to lay out money yourself.
However, selling rarely goes smoothly, I just hope you feel strong enough to stand up for yourself at such a difficult time.
Are your DDs and SILs in a position to back you up, be with you for viewings and so on?
Sadly people (some) can patronise is or take advantage when they know we are vulnerable and occasionally having another person as “backup” can he helpful.

Your buyers sound unscrupulous - they just happened to be outside when a disgruntled previous would-be-buyer passes and 'spills the beans' about your house suffering from subsidence! No way, this has been a set up. Definitely do not offer to have a survey done. Let the buyers pay for their own.