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Emilymaria Thu 23-Jan-20 21:19:42

I met my husband 2 years after he and his first wife separated. We married four years later. He had two children, I had none (sadly, we didn't have a child of our own). We lived 200 miles distant from them, something that was neither his choice nor fault. We spent years flogging up and down the motorway once a fortnight to see the children who vacillated unpredictably in their reactions and feelings towards us. This, I learned, was due to a regular drip of poison from the ex and her family. Poor kids. They were used as meal tickets, weapons, leverage and excuses, but rarely treated simply as children. The ex sat in a well of self-pity for years, as a highly qualified woman, wouldn't even take part-time jobs in her field and wouldn't consider meeting someone else because her ex husband had 'ruined her life'. She lied to the children, cheated over money and didn't let up on demands even when my husband was being treated for cancer. Her reasoning over the last? "Nobody asks me how I am." Eventually, when my mother died, she wanted a lump of my inheritance. After much soul-searching I agreed to turn it over in exchange for full and final settlement (she even lied about that to the children, saying she 'didn't know' it was my inheritance - but we have the solicitors' letters proving, unequivocally, that she did). All this from a 'committed Christian' - her words. My problem is that, ten years later, it still eats away at my soul that I gave a woman, for whom I have nothing but contempt, money that my parents worked for. My husband and his, now, adult children say "Let it go, move on". Easy to say. I would love to. Even so, with all I've done for the kids, time I devoted to them, gifts, advice, shoulder to cry on over 25 years, I was excluded from their graduations and treated as nothing but an ordinary guest at the first wedding. The second one is coming up. I've been told I won't be at the top table. I didn't expect it. But I'm so throughly pee'd off with the whole ghastly saga I feel that I don't want to attend at all and have to put on a brave face, yet again. Not keen on acronyms, so interested only in reactions/advice/commiseration from others who've been there, too. Maybe I won't feel so isolated, angry and guilty for using my parents' hard earned money so wantonly. And I do want to move on, but I don't know how.

GuestCorrectly Fri 24-Jan-20 16:51:13

It’s hard, especially when it wasn’t even your divorce. However, I think you need to separate the two events (payment and wedding) as they aren’t actually interlinked. The payment bought a full and final settlement, meaning you and your husband have presumably been able to enjoy more of his income than would otherwise have been the case and also avoid the constant threat of court applications to increase maintenance payments etc.. The weddings are not linked and seating plans are never easy following divorce, more so if one spouse has remarried and the other hasn’t. Accept that for what it is and rather than feeling snubbed or disentitled, look forward to the occasion and enjoy chatting to those with whom you are seated.

MegrannyW1 Fri 24-Jan-20 16:28:19

Wow Paddyanne that's harsh talk. I agree with Eglantine21 go to the wedding be a glamorous you and yes I agree to get her off your back your parents would have said just do it. Now let it go you sound a kind person who has had a harsh deal

Jani31 Fri 24-Jan-20 16:04:04

My separated husband died, so it was easy when my DDs got married, they took each other up the aisle. Youngest SIL has Mum and Stepdad, Dad and Stepmum. They had 3 main tables at the front with me in the middle and SIL's parents either side. At the head table was bride and groom, Maid of Honour, bridesmaids and groomsmen. No one was snubbed, meant a quiet harmony x

pigsmayfly. Fri 24-Jan-20 14:58:12

I’m horrified that you gave her the money. Now remember you may be a wife but you are a human being and a strong one. Start making choices that suit you. You should be sitting next to your husband at the wedding. Either that is on the top table or on a different one. Explain to your husband that you expect his family and his ex wife to treat you with respect, especially as you gave her some of your inheritance. You will therefore expect to be seated next to him wherever that may be. The children are all adults now. Let’s have a bit of respect and dignity for you after all you have done. Do not put a brave face on. Deal with this problem and then wear a truthful face. You sound like you are a wonderful lady who has been amazingly supportive of your husband. It’s your time. How do I know? I am a second wife and step mum. Assert yourself quietly, calmly and firmly. Good luck!

grannie7 Fri 24-Jan-20 14:35:27

I am sorry to say some folk on this question don’t seem to understand the stress this has put you under for years.
It seems to me that they only time your BH could see his children was the 2 days in 14 due to work commitments/costs etc.
A very close friend of mine had this problem she met her husband years after he had split from his first wife, but she was blamed for the brake up.In regard to the money Emilymarie may have had no choice if the ex had taken the husband to court the court would demand the total amount of money wages,savings etc of both emilymarie and her husband the fact that some of their monies was inheritance would not be taken into account.This is what happened to my friend they at the time were not even married but the ex knew they were both earning so had returned to court to demand more money.

I thought it completely wrong especially as the ex had a much better paid job and a new partner not that his money entered into it, which I thought strange as my friend’s did.
Also my friend’s husband was paying the mortgage, all the bills and giving the ex much more money than he was told to because he loved his children and didn’t want them to go without.Their. mother needed a lot of money for her clothes and lifestyle so a lot of the husband’s went on that.
How the courts allowed this is still beyond me.
But EmilyMarie my friend put it behind her and never let her resentment show.Her and her husband were very happy together and lived a loving life for 40+ years.
The ex was still asking for money when both children were grown up with children of their own.
When my friend’s husband died she demanded to come to the funeral which my friend agreed so as not to cause problems for the children.
Try and put it behind you I have seen that work well but difficult I know but your health is more important.
I do agree with the others that your husband should be supporting you first his children are not babies.Gook luck home everything goes well for You.

EthelJ Fri 24-Jan-20 14:02:49

I can't understand why you gave her some of the money you had inherited from your mother, but you did so now you have no choice but to put it behind you. It was your choice, perhaps not a good choice but you didn't have to do it. If you continue to let it fester it will affect all your relationships, which I'm sure you don't want.
Re graduation usually tickets are strictly limited give 2 and I can understand why they would want their parents there.
Regarding the wedding, just go and enjoy it. Again maybe places at the top table are limited and itnwill be important to them that their parents are there. It doesn't sound as though you have been a parent figure in their lives or that they have lived with you perhaps more a trusted friend which is fine. If you care for them and your DH just turn up and have a fixed smile on your face.

Harris27 Fri 24-Jan-20 13:41:14

Am I missing something here? Your husband let you give your parents hard earned money as a settlement? Why? I wouldn’t have given her a penny!, poor you.

Cabbie21 Fri 24-Jan-20 13:31:12

Re seating at the wedding.
At my daughter’s wedding, there was no top table, they were all round. Bride and groom sat with bridesmaid and groomsman and their partners. I and my now husband had a table with my relatives, as did my ex, and the groom’s parents.

At my son’s wedding, my husband and I were not on top table. We had a table with our relatives. My son’s father was on top table. I have no idea where his wife sat, but if it was top table I have forgotten, so that shows it really does not matter. I was much happier being with my family than being stuck on show on top table.
Hope this helps.

YorkshireSal Fri 24-Jan-20 13:24:40

You must insist on sitting with your husband at the wedding. He should support you in this. There are lots of ways this could be accommodated. Second families are always difficult, but you two need to stick together.
After the wedding I would try to distance myself from the ex and have nothing to do with her. Just maintaining contact in a civil way with his adult children should suffice.
I agree with others on here who can’t understand why you gave that woman your inheritance, but you need to find a new focus and move on. Maybe find a new hobby or interest plus do some meditation/mindfulness to help to distance yourself from the stress.

Sarbas Fri 24-Jan-20 13:10:06

Your husband should be affirming you and making you know you’re number one and giving you all the praise and thanks you deserve. That is where your problem lies. He should be willing to put you first in front of his children. His children have grown up now yet you still feel bottom of the pile. That’s because he didn’t make you feel the most important person in his life all these years and you felt second to his ex and children. Now they’re off your hands you still feel in their shadow. Husband needs to show willing to sit with you at the wedding and not at the top table! He needs to publicly show you are number one.

Angel379 Fri 24-Jan-20 13:08:38

Perhaps you should try counselling. It is understandable that you feel angry. What a despicable woman. But it is not good for you to hang onto this. Counselling will help you to let go. As for the adult children, they will have been brainwashed most of their lives and are possibly still under her control. Take good care x

JaneNJ Fri 24-Jan-20 13:02:56

Apparently you must have been unconsciously hoping for some kind of acceptance or inclusion into your husband’s family to have given of your own inheritance. It was a mistake and the only person to be angry with is yourself. Your only family was your second husband. HE chose you. Not them. Period. The others owed you nothing. That said, holding onto resentment is like “drinking poison and expecting the other person to die.”

Tempest Fri 24-Jan-20 13:01:39

Totally agree with paddyanne.

Emilymaria Fri 24-Jan-20 12:39:31

@paddyanne - there were specific circumstances that I can't go into because they are unique and risk identification of those involved. All I can say is my husband was put in an intolerable position. No, he didn't co-parent on a regular basis, his ex wife made that utterly impossible. And he could not have supported them all had he not lived where he did - again, there was a very good reason for this. But you seem to have made a judgement rooted in your 'beliefs', regardless of the reality of the situation. Hope you, too, find some respite.

Hm999 Fri 24-Jan-20 12:32:15

Until you've lived this 1st family, 2nd family thing, you probably can't understand how manipulative some people can be.

Good luck Emily x

GrannyAnnie2010 Fri 24-Jan-20 12:30:21

There wasn't a "choice" to "give" the inheritance money. As his wife, her money was also his, and so was considered 'joint assets' when calculating maintenance or alimony.

That's what I've understood from the OP.

Craicon Fri 24-Jan-20 12:14:18

You need to let your bitterness go and think of the children stuck in the middle. None of this is their fault and I imagine they are desperate to keep the peace.

The ex didn’t force you to give her your inheritance, it was your choice and you could have chosen to hold onto it. You gave it with strings attached because you wanted to change the dynamic between you. You now have to let this go otherwise the bitterness will eat away at you.

I’m a step mum but there’s no mum as she sadly died several years before I met DH. My lovely DIL to be will struggle with a similar wedding dilemma as her parents are divorced and both remarried but she doesn’t get on so well with dad’s new wife. I will do whatever is required to help support Step-son and DIL on the day.

Oldmatilda Fri 24-Jan-20 12:10:24

I am a bit confused why you felt you had to give her some of your inheritance monies, am I missing something here. X

Jishere Fri 24-Jan-20 12:07:41

You write your mental health was suffering, well you can't put a price on well being.
I think your Mum would be proud of you to fight so hard to be able to see your step children. Lots would have walked away or let it break them as a couple.
The step children's mum will never have what you have clearly got compassion and a determination to love others in spite of...but also a great relationship with your husband.
Leave any bitterness with the step children's mum, sounds like as a step mum you have and are doing a brilliant job.

Sbhrt21 Fri 24-Jan-20 12:07:26

To be honest I’d tell the lot of them where to go - seems you are being disrespected at every turn so don’t give any of them any air time - they don’t deserve it.

paddyanne Fri 24-Jan-20 12:01:30

8ellie666* that'll be the so called mother who looked after them and raised them 12 out of every 14 days .I cant abide men who think its fine to let others raise their kids and then want their new partners to be treated like a mum...when clearly he wasn't even a dad most of the time .Yes I feel very strongly about it because I've seen the effect of children firt hand and its ahard watch.People who remarry should remember their children ought to come first ...not their new woman .A child isn't aplaything to be disgarded or picked up every two weeks and moaned about because they aren't thrilled you deigned to show face .
Clearly you would all be delighted if your childrens fathers had behaved in this way .....

sarahcyn Fri 24-Jan-20 11:59:02

What a terrible story.
You must have been made to feel so guilty to be persuaded to give her part of your inheritance from your own parents. As a sinner and a Catholic, my alarm bells always ring when anyone calls themselves a "committed Christian".
Now the children are grown though, you are free to be frank with them about how things have been for you over the years.

Seajaye Fri 24-Jan-20 11:52:26

Second wife's often get a poor deal . I don't know why you gave you husband's first wife any of your inheritance but I expect you had your reasons at the time. There is no point continuing with negative thoughts , no good can come of this. Go to the wedding if you have been invited, but if you still love your husband focus on the future, planning a happy retirement together. It is our relationships with people that care about us that matters the most, in the long run.

Minshy Fri 24-Jan-20 11:52:07

Please don’t let this eat away at you any longer... one life and all that....

Ellie666 Fri 24-Jan-20 11:50:09

What an absolute disgusting reply, you must be one nasty piece of work. If you read the message properly THEY did the travelling never the so-called mother. If you can't say anything positive and constructive you should keep nasty opinions to your self.