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men on postnatal wards at night

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Phloembundle Thu 16-Jan-20 10:10:13

That's an absolute no no for me unless they are in a side room.

BlueSky Thu 16-Jan-20 10:08:35

When I had my first baby nearly 50 years ago it was strictly visiting hours only even in the post natal ward. Now they've gone the other way trying to be accommodating. They'll have plenty of time to be supportive when you get home which nowadays it's very quick even if you had a C section.

Minshy Thu 16-Jan-20 10:02:56

Visitors to wards in general have become more rude. Ignoring staff and doing as they like. Managers do always Seem to go on the visitors side leaving staff perplexed and fed up

Gingergirl Thu 16-Jan-20 09:58:24

How times have changed. I gave birth in the early 80s and things weren’t great then-my husband was unwell with a bad cold when our second was born and after the delivery was told he couldn’t visit until better. It was only days later when I was distraught, that they let him come.Now, it seems they’ve gone the other way, and it’s equally as ridiculous...

Calendargirl Thu 16-Jan-20 09:48:22

Reading this, I feel so pleased I gave birth in the 1970’s. DH missed both births, not his fault, when he came hot foot to see me and meet his new daughter, it was debatable whether Sister would let him in as it was outside the strict one hour visiting times. But she did allow him to pop in for a few minutes. We accepted this, it was the rules.
Take away meals, watching porn, loud mobile phone use, all sounds horrendous.

annep1 Thu 16-Jan-20 09:40:11

I find this utterly incredible. I think any support should be given by staff. If there's a shortage than that needs addressed but not by husbands staying.
Of course we would all like our mothers/husbands with us but its only a short time fgs. You will survive.
Sleeping together Who would do that!?
If I was in that ward I would be complaining loudly.

Daisymae Thu 16-Jan-20 09:25:20

Absolutely not. There must be some entitlement to privacy. If there are strict rules then someone has to have the responsibility of enforcement. I think that the nurses have enough to do.

timetogo2016 Thu 16-Jan-20 09:23:33

Privacy springs to mind.

petunia Thu 16-Jan-20 09:23:09

The problem seems to be in Edinburgh that rules exist but it is down to the staff on the ward to enforce it. If the person refuses or complains, management support the partner not the staff.

This seems to be a common problem. Midwives and support workers are placed in the position of gatekeeper. Well it clearly stops them sitting on their bottoms all night( that was a joke). Policing a handful of selfish partners takes time and if the staff know that management will side with the partner, I can see that a blind eye to all but the most disrespectful behaviour will happen.

merlotgran Thu 16-Jan-20 09:22:26

The noise and intrusion would drive me mad.

Galaxy Thu 16-Jan-20 09:19:50

And those who have had a difficult birth and dont have partners? Staffing issues under no circumstances should be addressed by family members. Many women are uncomfortable with men being present when they are vulnerable, those women have a right to private space away from men. The anecdotal evidence from women on maternity wards where men are allowed is awful.

GagaJo Thu 16-Jan-20 09:14:08

Yes, rules.

I was with my daughter in Spain when she gave birth. I stayed with her for 24 hours after the birth. There WAS an empty bed next to her. BUT the rule was strict. Family could stay, but NOT in a bed.

Have a set of rules. No takeaway. Fathers must eat out of the ward.

No phone calls on the ward.

If rules aren't followed, ask them to leave. Make that one of the rules.

TwiceAsNice Thu 16-Jan-20 08:37:05

I think it would be a good idea under strict rules. My DD1 had twins and a Caesarian . She was left to manage a lot of the time on her own and would have loved her husband to have stayed( or me or her sister for that matter) she just needed more help , she was in pain and breast feeding .

I don’t agree though that the dads should do as they like. They are there for their wife or partner. No takeaways, go out and get a meal and come back. Discreet phone calls and be conscious of other patients needs

petunia Thu 16-Jan-20 08:31:26

The maternity unit hospital at the Endiburgh Royal Infiormary has run into difficulties over its policy to allow the partners of new delivered women to stay on the postnatal ward at night. Initially the policy was to give women more support in the early days with the baby. In reality the men are causing problems by ordering takeaways and sharing the newly delivered woman's bed. The sheer numbers of men choosing to stay overnight is creating problems of overcrowding in spaces not designed for extra people. Other women on the ward are embarrassed by having a male stranger present when breastfeeding and in other vulnerable situations.

I'm torn here. I do see the need for support from someone in those early hours. But I do hear, from ex colleagues,that some of those “supportive” men have disturbed the night with their use of mobile phones, talking loudly, watching women breastfeed and one case I heard, watching porn on his mobile.

How should this be managed? Some women need to stay in hospital after giving birth. Some women need support. But should this be at the expense of others?