Broadening the appeal of the Lake District

I said that as a result of the other posts which I had read on this thread.

It was not wrong and I am not wriggling out of anything.

You, on the other hand, are trying to turn it into an argument.

Where did the y come from btw?l

wriggle away.

i am surprised that so few posters on here seem to grasp what this news story is really about; perhaps they don't want to, and perhaps that complacency is part of the problem.
it is a national park, so it receives funding as a national asset.
I guess most uk visitors are white, middle class, agile. suburbanites. that leaves out vast swathes of the population.
it is only right and proper to try to attract a wider group, by publicity and improved facilities, and maybe inner-city partnership schemes esp for children, many of whom never get a holiday.

Not wriggling in the slightest..

Reiterating what was posted on here.

Where did the y come from?

YHA Breaks Programmes and Family Support Programmes
Family Holiday Grants
Calvert Trust and Bendrigg Lodge

Are useful contacts

I've just done a search on YHA for a family of 5 with mix of sexes and ages for summer 2020. There are so few YHA hostels that can accomodate that kind of group that there is no way you could do a "loop" holiday the way people used to: (where you do a manageable amount of walking or cycling each day and stay in a different hostel each night. Starting and finishing at a rail or coach stop.

I think sometimes on here, people don't realise that options that were available in the past arent available any more!

Meant to add, I searched the lake district. There are plenty of YHA hostels but few that can accommodate a mixed age and sex family of 5. Too few to cycle/walk between.

So clearly they are focusing on other demographics, a lot of YHA places now cater to the exclusive use group booking market. Clearly the family on a budget market has been neglected.

That used to be a nice way to "do" an area as a family. You could do a couple of miles a day not big long cycles and still find a budget stop over.

I’m white, middle class and middle aged (well, I used to be) but I’ve never been to the Lake District nor to many other beautiful parts of Britain.
I heard a programme on radio where they took several inner-city people from other ethnic groups to national parks. They disliked the experience intensely and said they would not go again. I’d feel the same about a day in any big city.

Oh well, one programme on the radio about 20 people, that's it, it's all over.

What the hell is another ethnic group?

I think it means coloured people from the poorer parts of the cities who are typical of every single coloured person from the poorer parts of the cities by the very fact that they’re not white and middle class.

(Disclaimer: I’m being facetious)

^I don't know how anyone can broaden the appeal of somewhere like the Lake District.
It is the natural beauty of the place which appeals.
You either like it or not.^

Lots can be done.I have a holiday cottage that I rent out in Windermere, so I know the area well. There are many visitors from China and Japan and other countries around the world, but very few ethnic minorities from the UK.
I think widening the ethnic mix starts with introducing people to the Lakes (and other National Parks) at a young age, as my DH and I were. I was lucky enough to also go with my family, but well remember some less fortunate class-mates just running and gambolling, amazed at so much open space. Schools need to open up these opportunities to all children. Some will like it and return many times, some will decide it's not for them.
Regarding disabled visitors, there are already some excellent examples. There is a viewpoint overlooking Windermere, Orrest Head, that has been made accessible to pushchairs and mobility scooters almost all the way to the top. There is currently a push to do that last little bit. At Tarn Hows (a stunning beauty spot), the National Trust has a mobility scooter hire scheme and you can get all around the tarn by scooter. In other places there are walks for visually impaired visitors.
It is much too complacent to say it's there, people will find it, there is always room for improvement!

There are several Outdoor Adventure, Educational and Outdoor Activity Centres in the Lake District available for bookings by schools and other groups.

I don't know how many schools take advantage of these facilities but every school my DC and now DGC attended have arranged at least one trip to outdoor activity centres, more local to the schools, in Y5 and/or Y6.

This from Trevor Phillips.
Schools too afraid to help white boys and the lakes deemed not ethnic enough........... this lunacy helps no one.
Full story in the DM.

White working class boys are the ones which aee underachieving at school.

Trevor Phillips often cuts through the jargon and speaks sound common sense.

Well, if they don't want us there...... Seriously though we looked at hiring holiday accomodation in the Lake District and I probably could have gone a cruise for the ridiculous prices they were asking. Over £1000 for one week in some cases and more. Not in school holiday time either. On another note, I know a young family who went for a week there in March, they said it was expensive and everywhere was rammed with people. It was so busy they haven't gone back. Perhaps they should look at accomodation costs and parking. As for people from different ethnicities not visiting National Parks, sorry but the Cairngorms is rammed with folk from all over the world every year, as is Snowdonia.

You don't have to walk far ( say, half a mile) and there are few people. Towns are busy but once on the fells there are not many folk around

Encouraging more visitors will destroy the very reason why people want to go there.
One minute they are complaining about all the visitors destroying the paths, then they complain that there are not enough visitors!
Methinks someone just wants to get his name in the paper!

The Cairngorms is rammed with folk from all over the world every year

Perhaps because they have an action plan? cairngorms.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/2019UpdateEqualityMainstreamingProgressV1.0.pdf

The problem with the Lake District is that it is too popular, the roads and towns are overwhelmed with traffic on any busy period. No point in trying to broaden the appeal, there are plenty of other similar areas that could probably do with more visitors, Wales and Scotland I’m sure would welcome more.

Any particular parts of those 2 entire countries?

We used to go frequently for weekends and anniversaries birthdays etc it was our go to place but the hotels got very expensive and out of our price range. We sign up for deals but haven’t had any for a while.

lake district theme park and zip slides coming up to pander to a minority who cannot get off their backsides to walk into the empty landscapes. The lake district is open to all, this is yet another bad idea from snowflakes

I am glad we lived there for years while it was unspoilt. There will be no going back to wilderness once it starts

I doubt that there will be a theme park, not will it be covered in zip wires. Zip wires are very popular elsewhere and take up a fraction of the area - the white, middle aged, middle classes have nothing to fear. Who knows, they might even enjoy such a thing! I’m all of those tho gs and I love a zip wire - far better than traipsing through mud while avoiding dog poo.

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I don't think bringing the DM into the discussion is gong to help.

The original comment ( which of course has now been mangled by the right wing) was about reaching out and including underrepresented groups.