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feeling judged by a supposed non judgemental organisation

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Doodledog Thu 26-Dec-19 20:38:57

It is a sad indictment of our times that we do seem to be returning to ideas of 'deserving' and 'undeserving' poor.

I posted on another thread about similar things that I have seen on my local FB page since the election - basically people who know nothing of a situation setting themselves up as judges of who is 'badly enough off' to deserve help of various kinds.

I think that people like that should remember that a lot of people, however smug they may be, are not far from finding themselves in a situation where they also need help. Illness, divorce, changes in pension rules, business failure or redundancy - all sorts of things can tip people over the edge. I also think that there are a lot of people who enjoy being in situations where they can appear charitable, but actually are able to sit in judgement of others. Power can bring out the very worst in a certain type of person, and the Dickensian times we are living in offers a lot of opportunities for them.

I'm sorry you had to go through this, and hope that by next Christmas your circumstances have improved.

BlueBelle Thu 26-Dec-19 20:36:28

It could be mistaken though couldn’t it, if you were writing about donating food on Social media although you know it was things you collected and were giving out of the goodness of hearts it could have been misconstrued that you didn't really need the hamper?
You right he should have been straight about it with you though

Doodle Thu 26-Dec-19 20:35:48

How did they get access to your social media account?
Sorry you didn’t get your hamper.

GagaJo Thu 26-Dec-19 20:35:18

There is a national (international) charitable organisation (I don't want to add the name in case it's libellous) who collect for the poor and needy, who make, should we say, uncharitable decisions about who is needy and who isn't.

My school started a food bank collection for this organisation. I was torn, whether I wanted to contribute (although I do contribute to other foodbanks), because I have heard of multiple occasions where the organisation made unfair decisions.

In the end, I decided I needed to contribute as an example to my students (we collected by form group). My form collected probably the largest amount, which I was proud of. I thought the lesson, of giving at Christmas, was more important than my opinion.

I hope your Christmas wasn't ruined by the lack of charity of the charity. Could you post a comment on their social media? Shocking that they should do that to a family in need, at this time of year.

lemongrove Thu 26-Dec-19 20:27:02

It does seem odd that they check people out via social media,
However perhaps a lot of these sort of charities do that now?
Maybe they thought that as you had donated things, there were other more needy cases for them to help?
I think you are right, he should have told you that from the start and not promised a hamper.
Good luck for your future.?

M0nica Thu 26-Dec-19 20:25:11

I think that behaviour is shocking and sad and no credit to the organisation. If they thought you no longer needed help they should have contacted you direct to talk about it and see if there was an explanation.

I think there suggestion, at the end of the day that you could drive round and collect a parcel, to my mind, added insult to injury.

I can fully understand your mortification. An organisation like this obviously has to check whether all their recipients are genuine, but if in doubt then a quiet conversation about it is the way forward, not the behaviour you had to put up with.

pooohbear2811 Thu 26-Dec-19 20:19:23

Currently off work sick, now into month four. Mine is the only income in the house for a good reason, and roughly a third every month is made up of overtime.
So currently not bringing in enough to cover my rent. Signed onto Universal Credit and awaiting my first payment due middle January. Should have claim it a month or two before I did but was not expecting to be off this long.
So there is a place local to us that collects food from various supermarkets and sells it on cheap to people on a low income. It has made a massive difference to my expenditure and means we are eating more often and better than we would did they not exist.
They were offering hampers to people that used their services so I applied for one and got accepted and was sent a text message to say it was on its way, being delivered by local drivers. Never got here, so I messaged them the next day and was told they had forgotten me and I would get it that night, still nothing. So on Christmas Eve I phoned them and was told they would deliver it between 2 ans 6pm. still nothing. Messaged them and they told me the driver could not find my house...not difficult and they have my phone number.
So messaged them back again and just after 10pm the owner of the charitable organisation messaged me back and said as I had shared on social media that I had handed in items to the local food bank and clothes to a homeless hostel as well as some Christmas related items to the shop they run he did not think I needed their help.

Now a) why lie to me telling me I could get one then and keep fobbing me off it was being delivered?

b) why not read the posts fully? as he would have seen that the food bank collection is something I do every year and not a bit of it this year cost me a penny it was collected from kind friends and neighbours. the clothes were items that had been lying around my house for years unworn and the Christmas related items came from a charity shop where I knew the lady running it and she gave me them for free.

I can see his point in thinking I was well enough off not to need his help but why not have the decency message me that and tell me at the beginning I was not getting one and we could have discussed this and sorted it out.

It is hard enough to ask for charity in the first place without being made to feel like a liar and a cheat for claiming something to which he did not feel I deserved. He did then say if I still felt I wanted one I could go and pick one up as they were open till midnight but felt I had been insulted enough for one day and was not driving to pick one up at gone 11pm.

Thought these charitable organisations were suppose to be none judgemental?