Any ‘woke’ Christmas presents then? ?

We get round this stuff/experience dichotomy by asking people to provide a list of things they would like to receive at Christmas a couple of months in advance

Or you could just reel the whole thing in, cut back, sit back and let it go.

I understand 'woke' to mean up to the minute in being very demonstrative in showing how green and environmental or political correct you are.

In this case, not buying 'stuff' but giving experiences. However, quite often, as in this case, the environemental cost of getting to the experience and back etc exceeds that of giving stuff.

To be truly 'woke' the experience should have been an experience within walking distance. We get round this stuff/experience dichotomy by asking people to provide a list of things they would like to receive at Christmas a couple of months in advance. Sometimes where we know that person well, we will buy somewthing they haven't asked for. Which is how I received two books this year that I hadn't asked for because I did not know they existed but I am delighted to receive them and I am well through one at the moment. Since both are extensively illustrated and one is quite old, not something to download on Kindle.

All my presents this year were things I was delighted to receive, none will be disposed off, all will be used and this applied to everyone.

You have to be careful though gramatetto when two of my grandkids came to live near me I hunted lots of my old books out from ‘the attic’ I think it was Toytown tales or some such title by Enid Blyton... as I read it, it had mother smoking in the kitchen, then she slapped teddy on the leg for getting in the way and of course there was little black Samxx in there as well
I was changing so much as I was reading it to them that I may as well have written a new story

Brilliant Grammaretto! Just brilliant.

I think I knew what was meant by the subject. There ain't much else it could mean? am I right.

Urmston, I always press preview or my posts would be completely unintelligible/undecipherable.

I meant to agree with someone; DD wrapped prezzies in brown paper whereas I used saved paper from years gone by. Who was more woke?

One of my most successful presents was a book she had as a child wrapped for her DD. She even said "I used to love this book!" I said I found it in the attic....

Oh yes I would certainly consider that a "woke" gift ? (and as useful as a chocolate teapot!)

Has Meghan written a book pointing out the error of our ways?!

I guess that would qualify as a ‘woke’ present!!?

I like threads that ‘morph’! It’s like a conversation where one input changes it for a while then it loops back round. Or not!
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I think this thread has gone rather "off piste" now!
Maybe we need to start again Urmstongran
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Well I m not woke or asleep I m hovering in the middle trying my best to be woke but failing miserably sometimes

I have never heard the expression before but I regard myself as extremely environmentally friendly if that is the same thing!!

Ah thank you notanan I’ve been educated.

So does that mean you are now woke in the ways of wokeness?

Oh for effs sake ( that’s not meant for you Urmston but my bloody fingers) ...yes I did mean parallel which just this second changed into parcelled some blooming keyboard goblins around to day I think I m going back to bed

Hey BlueBelle was your post altered too? parcelled universe! Did you mean parallel?

Love it!
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Ah thank you notanan I’ve been educated.

I’m sorry I put the word into my title now!

Seems I should have put ‘any environmentally aware Christmas presents then?’ At least it would fulfill the character numbers GNHQ like for a title now hehe!

Makes more sense. I’m giving up trying to keep up with trendy words now!

I think 'woke' went into ironic only use, almost as soon as it was invented.

"Get woke" was never used Ironically.

"Woke" to describe people who say "get woke" is!

That was exasperation to me BlueBelle sorry it could read back as snippy with you. It wasn’t.

I might go for a lie down on my nylon sheets (joke).

The point of "woke" is it's people who follow trendy causes, but if their views are challenged or questioned they cannot explain or defend them, and instead just tell anyone who disagree with them to go away and "get woke"

"Woke" is not a compliment. It means that type of person. It does not mean eco aware. In fact it can mean the opposite as "woke" people jump on board causes which they may not understand or which may be contradictory

You sound like you like your DD. If you go around calling her woke people will assume you dislike her!

Oh god I give up. I meant ‘po-faced’. Jeez.
I think my NY resolution ought to be ‘press preview’ first‼️

Blimey I m travelling in a parcelled universe what the heck is ‘op faced’ ?

I think 'woke' went into ironic only use, almost as soon as it was invented.

I haven’t a clue what your post means notanan but I m sure it’s relevant ?

Oh notanan our eldest daughter has always been climate change aware since about 15y (she’s early 40’s now) when she went vegetarian, encouraged the rest of the family to brush our teeth without leaving the tap running, only put enough water in the kettle for what we needed etc. We used to call her ‘save the whale’. Made me smile though as in her teens she took the longest showers in Christendom!

She gently tries to educate us. I do love her integrity. She doesn’t buy many clothes - for example she has never been to Primark as she will only buy when she knows workers have good wages - ergo especially in the past before meeting her partner (2 salaries better than one in a household!) she made do if she didn’t have the money for the more expensive stuff.

But even she admits everyone can only try to do what they can. She & her partner had 6 days off for Christmas. His family live just outside Hamburg so yes, they had to fly.

She recycles to an annoying (to me) level, eschews bottled water. Said tongue in cheek to me that she nearly bought for Christmas for me a nice soap dish and a bar of soap to replace your pump soap mum.

Actually I make her sound a bit op-faced. She’s not. She’s gentle and kind and I ❤️ her to bits. I’m just a lot less ‘woke’ than she is ....
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Can’t we just use English words it sounds far too ‘hip and pretty trite’ to me
So a woke present is something environmentally friendly
My rather (rude) in my mind but ( honest) in his. ex son in law once handed me back a present that he said he would never wear as it wasn’t to his taste
The next year he got a gift of some trees in Africa couldn’t give that back could he ?

You'll love the monkey forest. I went with my DS and his 3 children, and had a wonderful time. Apparently they repopulate the areas where they live naturally with the offspring they breed there to help prevent the declining numbers.
One little family we saw.