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HurdyGurdy Sat 07-Dec-19 18:20:46

There is a lot of background to this, which is too much to detail here, although I'm happy to answer any questions if asked.

My grandson has been staying with us this week, and is going home again tomorrow. He turned 8 this week. He wears age 4-5 clothes, 5-6 at a push. He's a real tiny tot.

He lives with his mum, 200 miles away from us. His dad, my son, lives with us. Due to the distance, we only see him for a week at at time, four times a year, because that's all the annual leave my son gets.

It is believed that he has an autism diagnosis. He is practically non verbal, and what speech he does have, is difficult to understand.

His diet is nothing short of tragic. He eats

French fries
Garlic bread
Breadsticks
The breadcrumb/batter coating to chicken nuggets or fish fingers - and sometimes he will accidentally have a minute piece of the meat attached to the batter
Toast
Crumpets
Crisps

He will not entertain fruit or vegetables or any other foods.

I think it's all down to texture - he seems to go for dry/crunchy type foods.

So can you suggest any ways we can try to achieve the same texture when trying to encourage him to eat other, healthier, foods.

I was quite encouraged this week when he had half a tiny pot of fromage frais. He's never even tried it before, so we were over the moon with this small progress! I don't know how much of it was down to the Peppa Pig character on the pot, but whatever - at least it went in. He also had a bite of a banana, but quickly spat it out again.

Any ideas are welcome. Our hands are a bit tied, as we only see him for bursts of time, quite spread out, but if we can at least send him home to mum with one new food he has tried with us that she can continue trying, it will be a boost.

notanan2 Sun 08-Dec-19 12:31:59

Its a toddler trick but may work for autism:

Ice cube trays:
Little tasters of different things. They dont touch and its not overwhelming amounts.

Could take that idea and make it more "grown up" by using split dip bowls and small tapas dishes.

Buffet style dinners too are less intimidating and give the child some control if they can load their own plate.

vampirequeen Sun 08-Dec-19 12:22:22

Have you tried a split plate? Sometimes children don't like their food to mix/touch. A split plate keeps them separate.

Ngaio1 Sun 08-Dec-19 12:16:44

One of my step sons would eat nothing but sandwiches until her was around 11. He did enjoy Marmite so if you can make Marmite sandwiches and cut them into little cubes and, perhaps, make a pyramid shape, that may intrigue him enough to eat.

Lupin Sun 08-Dec-19 11:53:58

My sympathies in your concern. Just a suggestion - I saw I recipe in yesterdays paper for courgette French fries. It was a bit fancy pants with herbs and spices, so maybe just julienne strips of vegetable, dust in seasoned flour and fry in deepish oil or a food fryer. It may work. Maybe experiment with different veg. Just put them on the table with other items of his choice and see what happens. As RIGGIE says.

Riggie Sun 08-Dec-19 11:34:27

I'm mum to a son with SN (not autism) who developed a total food aversion die to being tube fed as a baby.
I agree with others, that hes with you for a week at a time so anything you do isn't going to make much difference in the grand scheme of things, other than to maybe stress him out when he may already be feeling stressed because hes not at home. And the last thing you want to do is make things worse.

I would give him what he normally will eat and have other foods out in serving dishes on the table at meal or smack times - things that you are eating - and maybe just say a "this is delicious" do you want some in a neutral tone. If he says no then just say "fine" and get on with the meal.

pinkquartz Sun 08-Dec-19 11:30:52

Can you make some mincemeat into something crunchy and crispy?

It does look as though he is undersize because there is no real protein in his diet.

Over cooked cottage pie is often crunchy.....he might like that with salt and chips.

vampirequeen Sun 08-Dec-19 11:14:28

My cousin would only eat Weetabix when he was a child. Even now in his fifties he lives on a very limited diet. But he's physically healthy and shows no evidence of the diet affecting him. I know this doesn't help you increase what your DGS eats but I hope it reassures you that it won't necessarily damage him.

notanan2 Sun 08-Dec-19 11:07:24

People suggesting that an autistic childs non primary carer should march him to the Dr for a blood test while he is already dealing with being away from home really have no clue!

Lancslass1 Sun 08-Dec-19 10:54:01

My younger son lived on baked beans,mashed potatoes,white bread and Ribena .
When his grandfather told him that corned beef was “soldiers ‘meat “he started to eat that.
I was worried sick when he went away to University but he survived and now eats virtually everything but is still not a fan of most fruit so still has whatever the equivalent is of Ribena but without as much sugar.
Could you give him vitaminC tablets?

stillaspringchicken Sun 08-Dec-19 10:52:00

@timetogo2016
If my MIL had taken my kids to have a blood test I would have been furious - it's not her place to do this. He's being prescribed vitamin drops already so his GP is aware of his diet already. Please don't do this, it could ruin your relationship with your DIL and therefore your GS.
When my MIL babysat she used to give them food they wouldn't eat and they hid it around the house when she wasn't looking :D

hulahoop Sun 08-Dec-19 10:48:03

Most children have some issues with food but it must be harder for you I would stick with what h likes and just try different bits like others have said I know lack of vitamins is a worry but they do say a child will never starve .. Enjoy times you have with him .

glammanana Sun 08-Dec-19 10:40:12

Would he be interested in the likes of Alfabites and he could spell out his name on his plate and still be getting potato down his tummy,can you roll chips in peanut butter and crisp off in the oven.
How sure are you and your son that anything you try will be continued when the little man goes home will mum keep it up. My eldest son would only ever eat beans & toast and now he is a strapping 6' 2'

inkcog Sun 08-Dec-19 10:28:49

I have a feeling this might not be about food.

trisher Sun 08-Dec-19 10:28:25

As you see him so infrequently I wouldn't try to change too much. You could try offering a litte something new with his usual food. Can you toast different sorts of bread? Does he have something on his toast and crumpets?-try peanut butter or cream cheese (or chocolate spread). Maybe some popcorn and the veg crisps. Rice cakes or crisp breads?
My friend's son ate very few foods had the same packed lunch every day and almost the same tea. He grew up fine!

TrendyNannie6 Sun 08-Dec-19 10:26:45

I took my one of my children to our drs because he was refusing so many foods that I considered good foods, dr wasn’t a bit concerned I always gave him vitamins, she said it was a phase that he would grow out of, he did, he went on to be 6ft 4 and healthy hasn’t been to the drs for years. I will say this happened when he was very young 5/6 years old

notanan2 Sun 08-Dec-19 10:24:32

Involve him in the grocery shopping too

basicallygrace12 Sun 08-Dec-19 10:23:56

my son , now 22, is exactly the same, and autistic. He eats fubes, yoghurts in tubes, but only strawberry ones. As he has gotten older his diet has only improved very little, he will now eat iceberg lettuce! one thing, he can now vocalise is he really doesn't like sharing plates or cutlery , he now has his own cupboard space with everything seperate, his own milk, he drinks straight from bottle, milk is good, try individual cartons with straws, mine will only drink fresh semi skimmed! he eats ketchup on anything, but only heinz, at least a bit of veg even if with sugar. i always say he really only eats beige food! my daughter is also autistic and her diet is different but still very restrictive. Its a long process, and you sometimes think you have conquered a favourite and the manufactor makes a slight change, which i can't notice and they don't eat. By way microwave snacks, where he can cook him self, burgers/pizzas etc always mean he eats as no one else handles. He will sometimes eat an apple, but only if he can use an apple slicer and do it himself, and then only a green one. you could take him shopping and let him look at all fruit and veg etc, but i would try that in middle of night at an empty 24 hour supermarket!
Other things to look out for, toothpaste, and cleaning teeth, my son doesn't! sound, i never knew until they were adults and could vocalise, things like TV always had to be on a set volume number for them to tolerate sound. Touch, flannel sheets and bedding, my kids love electric throws, i think the weight of them helps reassurance, you can get weighted blankets. sock seams! mine wear inside out! and my son ALWAYS has electric fan on, comfort from feel of flow and white noise. And make sure you use same washing powder as mum, the smell and feel may be enough to throw child off balance!
I know i have strayed from food, but if you can make surroundings more comfortable, sometimes that means the child is more relaxed and will then be happier trying new stuff.

notanan2 Sun 08-Dec-19 10:22:52

If you try to trick or hide other food in his food he wont trust anything you give him and may stop eating all together!

Put a little bit of everything you're eating on his plate. WITH something he will eat. Use tapas style dishes if its runny. So its there. Offer dont force. Dont make a big deal of it. Just put it there so that if one day he decides to try it theres no big circus around it

Solonge Sun 08-Dec-19 10:18:38

A limited diet that is absent in Protein, vitamins and minerals has a huge impact. Whilst your grandson may not be starving he sounds very malnourished. The body depends on proteins to build cells. He will be small for his age without protein. He is at risk of rickets and scurvy and many other conditions from lack of vitamins. Your son is the child’s father and could take his son to your gp as a temporary patient. Frankly the diet is tantamount to child abuse. How many of us would have happily floated along feeding our child crap their entire life? Maybe your son could move nearer to his son and have greater input.

BusterTank Sun 08-Dec-19 10:17:39

My daughter went through a stage were she would eat nothing but yogurts . I never pushed the issue of eating anything else . I would always say would you like a bit of what I'm eating . I would add a few extra options on his plate and let him make the decision . Also offer him different snacks between meals but don't make an issue out the food thing because it will make matters worse . Good luck .

timetogo2016 Sun 08-Dec-19 10:10:38

I would be very worried tbh.
It`s no surprise he`s small.
I think I would have him take a blood test to make sure he isn`t deficient in vitamins etc.

stillaspringchicken Sun 08-Dec-19 10:06:26

If he's on the autistic spectrum, then being in a relatively unfamiliar environment will be causing him considerable discomfort already - as the parent of two autistic kids, I'd recommend feeding him what he's used to and what he likes. He's only with you for a few weeks each year, and you don't want him to associate these times with being stressed out by food. I'd recommend getting a children's cookbook and asking if he'd like to help you make something out of it, to show that food can be fun, rather than forcing change upon him.

BradfordLass72 Sun 08-Dec-19 07:27:39

Look here and see if this would work: crispy fruits grin

www.healthysupplies.co.uk/freeze-dried-fruit.html

If he accidentally eats chicken, then maybe tiny, tiny slivers of it, fried crisp or in a tempura batter could be offered.

Tempura is great for crisping a lot of things but if the texture of the food inside offends him, you may have to choose things which don't stay soft when fried.

This is not a 'picky eater' who has to be tempted but a child who reacts to food in a way which shows he is upset or even disgusted or sickened by it.
Autism is a complicated issue.

Try some experiments when he's not with you and see what you can crisp up, with or without batter.
When I was a school cook, some of the children loved fried luncheon meat ! This was cut into strips, shallow fried to a crisp and eaten with their fingers. grin

I hope the freeze dried stuff is helpful. smile

Missfoodlove Sun 08-Dec-19 00:02:07

A “ goody plate” did it for my children.
Prawns, carrot, apple, bread. You get the idea, tiny portions of lots of textures and taste.
I placed it down with no comment and it was well received.
Once the pressure of sitting down and eating a meal was removed the appetite increased.

Callistemon Sat 07-Dec-19 23:23:27

What he likes this week with you he may decide he doesn't like when he gets home anyway!