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Everything - well nearly everything - is right in this country

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Opal Tue 03-Dec-19 14:04:03

Don't know about you but I'm getting so fed up with all of the doom mongers and nay sayers on here, I thought I'd start up a thread for the positive amongst us to list everything that we think is great about this country.

My thoughts - I love the beautiful British countryside and the fact that it looks different in every season. I love our friendly village pubs that serve good beer and good pub grub. I love our coastline, some of the most beautiful in the world.

Over to you guys - let's keep this thread going ........

HettyMaud Sat 07-Dec-19 20:32:27

Cecil Rhodes Quotes:
-Remember that you are an Englishman, and have consequently won first prize in the lottery of life.-

inkcog Sat 07-Dec-19 20:34:44

How does that work if you are a Welsh woman?

Pantglas2 Sat 07-Dec-19 20:37:20

Methinks we sail in on their coattails, inkcog.....

Doodle Sat 07-Dec-19 20:40:58

jura I apologise unreservedly. I did not spot the YouTube link at the bottom of your thread and assumed you were making a different point. I am sorry.

crystaltipps Sat 07-Dec-19 20:48:06

I wouldn’t rely on Cecil Rhodes.... well known as a land grabbing racist and white supremacist..

Tedber Sat 07-Dec-19 20:49:30

I really, honestly, don't know why my post was deleted in response to Crystaltipps! It wasn't challenging in any way. I have asked Gransnet WHY it was deleted. I won't repeat what it said as obviously THAT will be deleted as well but I seriously have no idea why my challenge on Crystaltipps as opposed to others was deleted? Are there some people more privileged than others to express their views?

crystaltipps Sat 07-Dec-19 20:50:25

Well don’t blame me - I didn’t read it .

M0nica Sat 07-Dec-19 21:12:14

Tedber why not reword it and repost it. I read it, I confess I do not remember what it said, but if it had said aything offensive I would have definitely rememebered it.

Possibly the GNHQ person who read it, read a meaning in to it that has eluded everybody else including the author. confused

jura2 Sat 07-Dec-19 21:14:54

Doodle, no worries- glad you got it x

Cecil Rhodes, blimey?

Tedber Sat 07-Dec-19 21:59:30

Ok...I have got a reply from Gransnet and they have said they don't read all the responses but if anyone reports a post - for whatever reason - they strike it off and send the poster a warning! They say they take a very "light handed approach to moderating comments" and only look at the one post that was reported. Do me a favour? I am probably one of the most posters who TRIES to be objective, informative and non contentious but even then I have been warned twice! So how does anyone ever express their views here without being 'warned'? Seemingly, IF you are lucky enough not to be 'reported' you can say what you want?

AllotmentLil Sat 07-Dec-19 22:15:20

I think there are a lot of things wrong with our country at the moment but would I want to live anywhere else? Absolutely not! There is far more to be thankful for and I am thankful!

Opal Sat 07-Dec-19 22:29:31

Tedber - I read your post and there was nothing wrong with it. So what happens if a post is reported, because someone doesn't like it or disagrees with it, but there is actually nothing wrong with it and it is just an opinion? Do Gransnet still delete it, just because it's been reported? How can they justify that? We are all entitled to an opinion. I've seen far worse posts on other political threads, and they don't get deleted. confused

Tedber Sat 07-Dec-19 22:40:51

Apparently opal. Exactly that! If someone reports a post .. Gransnet don’t look at the bigger picture.. they just delete and issue a warning via email!

Nico97 Sat 07-Dec-19 22:45:33

Hmm...maybe the moderator is one of the ones who doesn't like this thread ? For the record Tedber I also saw your post and didn't think there was anything wrong with it and was quite surprised to see it had been deleted.

Callistemon Sat 07-Dec-19 23:10:39

Fluffy kittens are cute but they grow into cats!

GracesGranMK3 Sat 07-Dec-19 23:12:55

Ok...I have got a reply from Gransnet and they have said they don't read all the responses but if anyone reports a post - for whatever reason - they strike it off and send the poster a warning!

That simply isn't true.

Tedber Sat 07-Dec-19 23:24:25

Erm? What isn’t true GracesGran? I have the email!

Well you know I have no intention of getting into a debate about this!
I started off saying what I loved about living in this country.. now I appear to have been blacklisted by GN and now called a liar by a fellow Gransnet yer bahaha. STILL love living in UK though for the reasons I said initially. Sad this thread has brought out the pessimists

Opal. I totally agree with you. Just for the record before I am banned completely ??

Callistemon Sat 07-Dec-19 23:28:45

I never read my emails
Shhh, don't tell GNHQ

Callistemon Sat 07-Dec-19 23:29:57

Now I want to know what you said that was so bad Tedber!

Tedber Sat 07-Dec-19 23:33:15

So do I callistomon. Just told somebody reported it!

Callistemon Sat 07-Dec-19 23:36:55

What happens if you're an Englishwoman married to a Welshman and you're living in Wales?
Does that mean I won the lottery or got the booby prize?

Eloethan Sun 08-Dec-19 00:07:13

I am glad that I live in this country and have no particular wish to live elsewhere. However, I'm not sure I would be so glad if my husband's and my work and housing situation in the early years of our marriage were to be transported from the 70's to the present day.

In the 70's my husband was a student nurse, working long hours on very low wages, and I had two years off work to care for our first child. Despite having a very low income, we were able to rent reasonably priced hospital accommodation (albeit not that glamorous since we lived in a crescent of prefabricated homes that were originally used to house prisoners of war). We were able to eat reasonably well and pay for basics. For a few years, until I started part time work, there was no money for a phone or a holiday but we could afford to heat our home properly and to run an "old banger".

Nowadays it would be unthinkable for a family to survive on a student nurse's pay - the rent alone would eat up a substantial proportion of it.

So we, like many others, had our families when the basic essentials for living - housing, food, clothing, energy, etc, etc. - were within even the most poorly paid people's grasp.

In my view, many of the people of our generation have had it lucky. Even those who could never afford to buy their home had a good chance of obtaining a council house at a reasonable rent.

Nowadays, even professional people often have short term, insecure contracts and are not paid particularly well. Many young people cannot envisage being in a situation where they can buy their own property because, with rents so high, it is very difficult to save for a deposit, and the multiple of income needed to obtain a mortgage is much higher now.

Many families are living from hand to mouth, from one month to the next, often accruing debts to pay for expensive but essential household repairs. Has nobody read about the many, and increasing numbers of children who are living in poverty, crammed into poky, often sub-standard, expensive and sometimes dangerous accommodation? Has nobody read about children who have to move schools on a regular basis because, at the end of a yearly tenancy, a landlord can put up the rent to any amount he or she feels is obtainable - and tenants often have no option but to look for more affordable accomodation? Has nobody read about children coming to school with inadequate clothing and shoes, hungry and dispirited? Has nobody read about large numbers of people being unable to access affordable dental treatment or being denied - or waiting inordinate amounts of time for - medical procedures that were formerly available on the NHS, such as for varicose veins, cataracts, etc, etc.?

If pointing out these issues is construed by some as "moany gloom mongers" then so be it. To talk about the beauties of nature, how lovely our gardens are, how attractive British coast and countryside is, etc, etc, etc., is completely missing the point. There are some children in inner cities have not even seen the countryside or the seaside.

Specky Sun 08-Dec-19 01:09:17

Just read this post pretty much from beginning to end. At the start I was feeling quite contented, enjoying all the positivity and cheerfulness but now I feel quite p....sed off and grumpy...I wonder why! AND I can't get to sleep!

Still for what its worth, and in the spirit of what Opal intended I think that British pop music is probably the best in the world. Its great to still be following bands from the 80s that are still on tour and I love British music festivals (even the mud!). Oh and British beer is up there too ?

Specky Sun 08-Dec-19 01:13:03

Oops! I meant the whole thing not just your post eloethan.

GracesGranMK3 Sun 08-Dec-19 09:18:07

Tedber I was not calling you a liar - why so sensitive? It is simply not true that "if anyone reports a post - for whatever reason - they strike it off and send the poster a warning!"

I think your email must have been a one-off from someone having a bad day if that is exactly what it said.