Prince Andrew

Buckingham Palace

And PB Princess Beatrice

yet?

BP must be Buckingham Palace.

BP will be Buckingham Palace BlueBelle

Yes she was. They said on the radio this morning.

Anniebach was Virginia Roberts not tracked down to appear as a witness in the trial of Epstein?

Me too Bluebell , I have no idea who BP is

How am J supposed to know? I don’t know how the mind of allegedly abused young woman works.you don’t have sympathy for abused women do you?

Cricky all these initials are driving me crackers now whose BP?

suzie if the photograph was taken with the girl’s camera it is quite possible she kept the photograph for 10 years, if she did why would she want to keep it when it would remind her of being raped many times ,

I’m playing catchup here ....

Just burst out laughing at Gonegirl’s haven't said very much. It's you lot ?

Hilarious! My best laugh of the day.

Thanks suziew of course VR was who she is. I was thinking of her with the surname I suppose that begins with G and I can’t spell it!

I honestly think that you need to see the C4 programme to understand the context and given that C4 lawyers will have been all over it, it makes you realise what is uncontested and can be said without having to say allegedly. It has been known for years exactly what JE and GM are snd PA had been in their ‘circle for years . It was an open dirty secret and BP knew or should have kniwn

Well .annie why the questioning of the time lag in exposing abuse? You’ve only got to look at the cover up over years in the RC church and the Cof E to see that the powerful and well connected have successfully hidden their abuse for decades - this is just another example of the truth finally coming out

I watched the Dispatches programme earlier this evening, it cleared up a few things. The photo was taken on Virginia’s own camera, there seemed to be some queries about that on the thread.
I also wondered why JE lent Sarah Ferguson £15000. Surely Andrew could have rustled that up himself, instead of asking anyone else to lend it?

It’s all a mess, isn’t it?
I doubt PA will go to America or answer any official questions though, I think the recent interview was all anyone will get.

Ahh thanks Annie I didn’t realise by the title

Bluebell the thread ‘Our Gracious Queen ‘, we started to discuss Andrew a day or so ago.

Callistemon why was she tracked down ? If she was living a quiet family life in Australia. Reports say many young girls were abused, how was it known who they were and were all tracked down ?

The photograph was taken in 2001 and became public in 2011

I didn’t realise there was another thread about Andrew anniebach

Anniebach if the girl, Virginia, did indeed own the photograph, why would she release it if she is living a quiet life with her husband and children in Australia and had to be tracked down to give evidence?

Gabriella if he was indeed at that Pizza Express with his daughter, doubtless there would have been security people with them too.
I wonder if they would have 'selective amnesia' if questioned under oath?

Bluebell no, I am not defending him, I gave my opinions of him on the other thread yesterday and think the very same today.

Poor Beatrice. If I was her I'd nip off with my intended and get married somewhere a long way from Windsor.

Tbf I think it’s really hard if you love the Q to accept that her favourite son does not allegedly choose his friends wisely

granniesunite thank you .?