Prince Andrew

Why should Beatrice not marry in St George’s Chapel ? Her cousins and sister did

I put myself in a stupid situation at one time , fortunately for me the older person was a decent person, & I learnt a valuable lesson about Trust, Naivety & Danger . For which I am very grateful .

Even more incumbent on the user to make a stand & not be an advantage taker.

Beatrice is planning a very low key affair before this came to light.

Perhaps Bridgeit they don’t want advice on how their lives should be? At that age did you? Let’s face it, we all knew best at that age didn’t we.

Surely Beatrice will now be planning a low key wedding, not a big public shindig at Windsor? A discreet overseas wedding I imagine, not too much fuss and expense?

Understood Smileless2012. However, why on earth should he apologise for something he has not done? Would you? He may be guilty of being a fool and associating himself with Epstein however why should he apologise or say about the pain and suffering of something he had noting to do with? Why is it these days everyone is a victim? Society has gone soft.

Many , many men have the decency to NOT take advantage of what is on offer ,especially from a YOUNG female who is being coerced into sexual activities .
Men who choose to accept/ take advantage of these young girls, would, one assumes , be horrified if it were their own daughters, the fact that they are not implies to me that they consider themselves to be far more important & entitled to do as they please, because they can & because have no moral compass. One really cannot get much lower than using another human being for ones own gratification just because they can. !
How different this situation would have been , if the males concerned in this sworded affair had taken theses girls to one sided & offered them help advice about alternative life choices.

For me there are two separate things here all be it connected.

One is whether or not PA had sex with someone who had been trafficked for sexual exploitation and the other, is the fact that he continued to have contact with a convicted sexual predator and abuser.

We don't know that he is guilty of the first but there is no doubt that he is guilty of the second.

He showed no remorse for his association with Epstein or any acknowledgement of pain and suffering of Epstein's victims. The backlash continues and for the aforementioned alone, whether or not he is guilty of the allegation made against him, it is well deserved.

Yes, Annie, PA is the scapegoat.

^ the other men are of no importance, they are not members of the royal family , republicans must be thrilled.^

Now Epstein is dead , what’s left for them ? Money

Yes Gonegirl you would like to think it’s the person who was found guilty in a court of law that they are after but it’s not, it’s trial by UK press. Epstein was found guilty and perhaps they are after his money now he’s dead.

It's Epstein they're really after aren't they. (I know he's dead)

Sparkle the other men are of no importance, they are not members of the royal family , republicans must be thrilled.

The girl was 17, she was not underage so it stinks of a big payday for her.

I wonder in today’s society how many remember hanging around boys/men or even outside the back door after a concert. I didn’t do this because even at 14 I asked my self what were you hanging around the back door of concerts for? These girls/women are now shouting abuse? Really?

The girl was 17, what did she think she was doing, there was the door to walk out of or did she stupidly think celebrity, I might get an easy ride here through life? There is no easy ride not yesterday, today or in the future. He was very silly but a child abuser no, just hounded by our very silly press.

I suppose the police are only after the men who "used" (sorry for the awful word) Epstein's underage girls.

Not sure I understand it all.

She was working at Trump's place Mar-el-Lago (sp?) when Epstein spotted her. Is Trump being chased over his involvement as well? What about all the other men?

Very confusing. It’s been said the police tracked her down, now Epstein’s heavies tracked her down.

She is honest to admit she was in it for the money.

I assume she kept the photograph because she liked it, would she had kept it if she had been forced to have sex with him .

That's a good idea.

I wonder where her parents were?

I don't think charities want to be associated with him now.

Give him a paintbrush and tell him to help with the renovations at Buck House.

Could they ship him off to manage a charity somewhere?

Or even put him behind the counter in an Oxfam shop.

I think it's true that he had sex with her and, apart from the disgustedness of a man his age having sex with a girl young enough to be his daughter, I don't think it matters. She wasn't forced.

I think he needs a proper job. Why can't they find something for him? Something that doesn't involve too much brain power.

Sadly One mans meat is another mans poison
[? ]winterwhite,
there’s money to be made ( papers, magazines, photos etc) sad old world , so much inequality.

I find it strange that he could not recollect having that photo taken with the girl with his arm around him

How many random strangers have you had an arm round at some party and a photo was taken and how many of those people could you now name?
Personally I think he's odious, I know people who've worked with him. but in this instance he's been an idiot and is being used as a money pit.
Other than what the woman says is there any evidence? I do know that in the current climate women can make any claims and will be believed. Has she named any other less profitable men?