Prince Andrew

Bank of mum Bluebelle ?

Charles stopped Beatrice and Eugenie taking official duties and had a ding dong with their father over taking away security for them.

Iam I caught a bit of a conversation on Radio 4 the other, can't remember who it was but someone serious like a biographer/historian. He said that the queen made a mistake in the 1960s by initiating this idea of a Royal Family, up until then the Monarchy was the institution, not RF.

She thought it would make the Monarchy more relevant and humanise them - it was around the time of the 'fly on the wall' documentary the RF took part in.

Maybe now there will be a reverse and they can all retire and there is just a monarch and that's all we finance, and then the next one. We don't need every Tom, Dick and Harry so to speak, opening hospitals and shaking hands, attending the FA cup final, etc.

Thanks for that Riverwalk, very interesting and I do hope Charles reverses this move towards us having a huge extended RF as well as the Monarch. I used to be a Republican in my younger years but have slowly come to recognise the wisdom of my father in so many areas of life, including the costs and benefits of a Monarch v a President of some kind.

Let's have a Monarch and a small number of lesser royals, like William in his role as King in waiting and his younger brother Harry, as ex serviceman in need of some time out, therapy and recovery before he returns to his main role with the Invictus games. Otherwise, draw a very large line under it.

I agree BlueBelle
Why on earth are we still paying for these useless people? Some of the richest people in the world, born to unbelievable privilege, abusing their power - and it's all paid for by us!!

Andrew will have to wear a very hairy shirt for a very long time wherever he goes to cool off sorry he doesn't sweat does he.

The royal family is smaller now than it was . At one time the Duke and Duchess of Kent, Duke and Duchess of Gloucester, Princess Alexandra and Ogilvy, Prince and Princess Michael of Kent, Princess Margaret and Snowdon all carried out official duties.

Sorry, started a thread about his "stepping down"

It's always surprised me that it's often said that Andrew is the Queen's 'favourite'. She has always struck me as being a good judge of character. Maybe he's just very charming?

Who has said he is the queens favourite ?

Could it not the media claim this because of the fact the Queen was more relaxed when she had Andrew and Edward ,

A ten and fourteen year gap between them and Ann

Iam the costs of the Irish or German President come nowhere near the costs of the royal family, Their children their children’s wives etc are not part of the picture

He's damned before even standing trial.
I'd hate to be in front of such a pre-biased lot as are found on here.
The majority of you have him disemboweled before all the undisputed and irrefutable facts are known.
Kangaroo courts are to be despised.

It's just something I've read over the years; not claiming that it's true, it's just something that has always stayed in my mind, that's all...

Kangaroo courts are to be despised.

I agree, Gabriella but unfortunately PA's interview made judge and jury out of the viewers. How else were we expected to react?

GabriellaG, PA is not, at present “standing trial”:, however the universal opinion of the media, the public, the charities he is /was involved in and, for all I know, the “Palace”, is that his decision to hold the interview was unwise, not sanctioned by HM, and far from resolving the situation, his performance made it worse.
He was unconvincing, arrogant (Epstein’s behaviour was described as “unbecoming”) strangely focused on some details which could easily be verified by others, (but weren’t) and equally strangely vague about others.
Given his position, the necessity for security etc and private secretaries, it should be perfectly easy to access data relating to his whereabouts on the dates in question.
So don’t criticise the posters on GN for “disembowelling” him, (2 ll’s ) he well and truly skewered himself.
This evenings announcement that he is stepping down from public duties is a last ditch attempt to put out the fire, but I fear, too late.

Agree with every word MawB said.

Funny that a certain poster seems to think that it's ok for her to correct my spelling, something she has pointed out many times as being rude and not in the spirit of GN.
MawB needs to focus elsewhere as her snitty comments on just about everything I post, has become very obvious and something I shall report if it occurs again.

Disemboweling can have either 1 or 2 'l's likewise jewellery/ jewellery. Neither version is improper.

So GG54 you think it’s perfectly fine for PA to spend time with a convicted paedophile? And that’s just for starters.

I thought correcting the spelling of others was your stock in trade GabriellaG
I apologise if it is only others’ mistakes which qualify.

However, as I am here
Writers are often unsure whether to use jewelry or jewellery to denote decorative, usually valuable, personal ornaments. Jewelry is the preferred spelling in American English, while jewellery is the preferred spelling in British English

#justsaying.
I trust the rest of my post did not merit the epithet “snitty” ? .

Gabriella we are looking at the facts as known at the present moment; we have not judged on hearsay and speculation.

He may never have a case to answer and therefore may never be on trial; his presence is required as a witness, not as the accused.

Posters on here have speculated no more than many charities and institutions who wish to distance themselves from the possibility of unsavoury behaviour, or worse, by PA.

As it is many months since I corrected anyone's spelling on GN, I am not sure why you insist on dragging it up when you are not without making the odd uncorrected mistake yourself which I never refer to.
You have, many times, made the comment that to do so is rude and not in the spirit of GN.
Why you target me, only you know but it says a whole lot more about you as I have never posted anything snitty about you or any of your posts.
If I don't meet with your approval then I politely suggest that, as you seem to have agreed with others that I am a liar and fantasist, you pass over my comments without resorting to reading anything I type.
I'm not going to answer any more of your posts to me so it's best that we agree to differ and ignore each other.

Callistemon
I know full well that comments are based on what has emerged so far, I have all my marbles, however, many posters have, in the recent and distant past, derided articles printed in certain newspapers as being hype and supposition.
I cannot square that with them now believing all that is printed.
Charities too only know what the media put out.

Stop being so patronising GG54 plenty of us on here are basing our opinions on facts - it’s not a kangaroo court to judge that mixing with a child sex offender is not acceptable behaviour

No need to be tetchy with me, Gabriella
You had accused posters of being biased, disembowelling and holding a kangaroo court whereas most posters have stuck to known facts to make an assessment.

suziewoozie
You have overstepped the mark.
You have a choice of asking GN to remove that comment or I will report you.
I neither typed nor intimated anything of the sort in the post to which you refer.