Our gracious Queen

Yep according to this
www.theguardian.com/media/2012/oct/29/jimmy-savile-behaviour-prince-charles?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Saville? buddy of the Royals?

That’s because they were lying Urm.
I don’t care who is father is, I know who his mother is and she has tolerated his unsuitable friendships for far long including visits to BP and Sandringham.

Plus George Herbert would have 50% inherited genes from his mother.

He is their son alright and a waste of space. Air miles Andy....reminds me of Margaret.....useless......literally.

Fair enough. I suppose we all see things differently.

Going back to the JE case - Whatever happened to the forensic examination of that photograph that Andrew’s people were supposedly arranging? Their claims of the picture being manipulated have gone very quiet.

Lord .porchester’s son

inews.co.uk/news/uk/profile-george-herbert-the-eighth-earl-of-carnarvon-180701

Charles looks nothing like .porchester

Urmstongran it wouldn't make any difference to his entitlement to public funding who his father was, because his mother is the monarch and he has his entitlements via her.

A DNA test would decide it - especially as its taxpayers money funding his lifestyle.

If any of them look like Porchester it's Charles. Did she know him at the time?

Andrew does not look like Lord Porchester

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7686103/The-Queen-horse-race-manager-Lord-Porchester-just-good-friends-more.html

I have looked and I disagree, Urmstongran

Andrew looks like Philip. He's just a heavier build.

I think there’s no smoke without fire. Do have a look at Porchie. Peas in a pod.

The Crown starts again tomorrow night and there will be an episode devoted to The Queen's trip to America with Porchie and the speculation.

Not good timing for the poor Queen.

Thank you annie

Google a picture of PA and one of Porchester at the same age and then see what you think.

Oh Urmstongran, I don’t think he is someone else’s son! His build is probably down to enjoying the good life too much!
The Queen would never have cheated on Philip I’m sure.

Totally agree with your comment Anniebach my sentiments entirely.

PA if he had nothing to hide should go over to USA to face charges. He is being looked after (and coached maybe) by the best legal team money can buy.

Can a Royal be questioned under oath? If he can he should agree to do so. Clear this bad smell once and for all.

The poor Queen. PA is said to be her favourite son (maybe because he is the son of Lord Porchester?) He certainly isn’t of skinny build like his siblings.

If a DNA test could be arranged that’d be good .... another group of people removed from the Civil List as the taxpayer wouldn’t have to pay a bean towards his luxurious lifestyle!

‘Do you know who I am?’ he asked after he’d driven his very expensive car into some expensive Royal gates.

If he has nothing to hide (never mind the wish-washy ‘I have no recollection’ as probably advised by his legal team!) then stand up like an honourable man sir and clear your name.

leaving facts aside. My opinion -

He has spoken publicly now because some of the charities he is patron of want shot of him.

If he retires, he will be judged as guilty.

Do I think he is a disgrace to his mother and the country? Yes.

Do I have doubts about his friendship with Epstein? Definitely yes.

He met Epstein in America after Epstein had served his sentence to explain their friendship could not continue ?

I do not believe this, he could have done this by letter, email of telephone. Perhaps what he wanted to discuss with Epstein
couldn’t be carried out in the written word or by telephone, too risky .

Whitewave it may be that he's just worried about setting a precedent, but it would look better if he agreed to meet the police, maybe in the UK. Tbh I can't imagine they would prosecute unless evidence was staring them in the face so badly that they'd look odd not doing so. I don't think America really wants to risk damaging US/UK relations unless it can't be avoided, so he might as well talk to them and say what he knows. Personally I don't think he's a pedo himself but a girl over the age of consent in the country he was raised in, who appears to be fully mature might attract him.

Still not criticising PA then annie?

Not with the young woman procured for Andrew whose picture we saw with her.

But the American police want to interview him, and he is resisting that.

Ask yourself why?

Sex with a young girl is not illegal above the age of consent, but no one will deny that this young girl was being exploited and procured by Epstein for sex with anyone Epstein ordered to have.

OK you can defend until you find differently that Andrew did not partake in an illegal activity, but you cannot deny that he behaved appallingly and with utter disregard for the young girls welfare.

This is a Prince of the UK for gods sake, and even he admitted that he failed to live up to the appropriate standard.

Time he retired and answered to his behaviour..

So guilt by association