This is not a thread about a thread but...

Not necessarily Hetty - perhaps those of us who see that it could have a massive impact on our families are simply worried enough to discuss it, educate ourselves, think about how it will affect us and attempt to mitigate for it by planning and by getting involved.

Boris is not an "extremist". He is just trying to get a job done that the people voted should be done.

Janeainsworth what do you hope will be the outcome of your tactical voting?

People who tend towards being natural worriers will, of course, worry about Brexit. Those of us who aren't worriers won't, that's all. I think I'm lucky to be thoroughly bored by it all.

"If there was something I could do to help that would be a different situation." That only applies if you have done everything you can to help, and even then there is still concern about the future. Maybe not your own future, if you have pots of money and/or you are planning to move to some other country where the future is rosy.

Have you written to your MP, posted your views on Facebook or another public platform, told family and friends what you feel about the situation, gone on a protest march, signed a petition etc etc etc ?

PamelaJ1 - what the last 2 posters said.

I'm always quite fascinated by people who don't believe in worrying about these things - as Labaik rightly says, if people didn't worry about things and do something about them then nothing would change for the better.

Do you do any volunteering? Any community based work? Any charity work? If so, I imagine that you do because you were affected by something, worried that enough wasn't being done, and wanted to bring about improvements so got involved.

Yes Pamela of course I’m still worried and afraid for the future, not so much for myself but for my children, grandchildren and other people of their age.

See my previous post yesterday.

What a strange argument; writing letters about things that concern you make you feel proactive but you don't actually stop worrying about something that concerns you until something is done about it. Women wouldn't be allowed the vote if everyone had thought like that etc etc

JaneA- you haven’t sat worrying though have you?
You have done something.
Now that you have done what you think was possible have you stopped worrying?

There are things that those who are worried and unhappy about the state of our country can do.

I have already written to my MP and told him that although he is a good constituency MP, I will not vote for him while Boris Johnson is leader of the Conservative Party. If enough people express their disapproval of the infiltration if both main parties by extremists, it will give encouragement to moderates to stand firm and true to their values & beliefs.

I shall vote tactically in the General Election. This website has been set up to help people to do this.

www.tactical-vote.uk

Sirchenjin- maybe we have a different definition of worry.

Perhaps if you could explain to me how worrying is helping you. This isn’t being selfish. I honestly cannot see how my worrying could possibly help someone else.
If there was something I could do to help that would be a different situation.

'I'll do what I always do, deal with it when it comes.'...and that's what a lot of us are doing ie trying to make the people who got us into this mess accountable and also trying to make others see sense. None of us are 'powerless'; we live [or used to live] in a democracy.

PamQS Mon 09-Sep-19 17:19:03 I am worried even though 'nobody I care about is likely to be affected'

One of the problems we have now that I don't think we had 50 years ago is that people only think about themselves. There is less thought given to the common good, its all me, me, me. Any person who thinks about the good of the country, whether politically minded or not, should be worried at the outcome of all this, whatever it is.

Do the majority think that way Pamela? I had a quick look at the posts and I think the Leavers say they're not worried, the Remainers say they are worried, and everyone else (ie the ones who don't tend to post on the Brexit boards) is split.

I’m loving this thread, the majority seem to think like me.
Whenever I say I’m not worried I get shot down in a hail of disapproval.

It’s not that I don’t have opinions, not that I don’t care, just that as I am powerless to do anything about it I can’t worry.
Il do what I always do, deal with it when it comes.

joannapiano coming back to this thread it looks as if the comments were not directed at you, but crossed posts, which can happen.

Coping with that would put everything into perspective.

Jane10 Monday 13.56

Sums it all up perfectly.

I’m still working (NHS) and have children who are at school/university - I’m not hearing anything great in practical terms about Brexit so of course I’m worried. Add to that the looming Scottish independence referendum (which Im pretty sure will swing in favour of separation) and it’s not looking great, just when we’re at a stage in life when we’re looking for stability for ourselves and the DCs so we can plan what we all want to do for our retirement and their work.

Division taking place at this moment on the Commons debate.

There will be civil unrest whatever happens - unless we make a deal under which we have exactly the same trading conditions and receive exactly the same financial grants from them as while we were members of the EU, combined with achieving "freedom" from any obligations to the EU to contribute to grants to any other members or to participate in any discussions and law-making.

A no-deal will result in a lot of hardship and complications, which will cause recriminations.
Not leaving will result in demonstrations about the legality of not conforming to the vote, which will cause recriminations.

We are stuffed either way.

Janeainsworth

I agree on every point, but I can’t see how it’s going to be resolved, I really can’t see anyone compromising, or being the bigger person for the sake of the country. So I just don’t want to keep going over and over the same stuff, I have had enough

How many people have said that lemongrove.....I see one,as part of an interesting and considered post.

I am afraid, I am afraid for the future of this country.
George Orwell wrote that the British people would never allow extremism to take over in our country.
It seems to me that one of the consequences of the referendum has been that expressing views that once would have been regarded as intolerant is now acceptable.
I am afraid that if we don’t leave the EU at the end of October, there will be serious civil unrest.
And if we do leave, without a deal, there will be serious financial consequences which will affect all but the very well off.
And I’m afraid that if there is a general election it would hand power to Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell.

.....and would people please stop saying ‘we are in the 21st century, the world has moved on, and we don’t have an empire any more’ !

She also mentioned serious concerns about the country having access to flu vaccine. And a Welsh MP said they had been shown the yellowhammer documents but were not allowed to divulge the contents to public.

I can understand people not thinking too much if they have really serious stuff going on in their lives but the fact is that people that are ill are not able to ignore it because Brexit could cause serious problems with their treatment. [this has just been pointed out in parliament by an MP who says she has a relative and constituents who suffer from ulcerative colitis, a condition that is made worse by stress].