Bon voyage Greta Thunberg

I agree SirC
And I also agree with with your posts Saetana and Lilyflower you make excellent points.

Urmstongran 'Virtue signalling of the highest order by a girl who is on the spectrum and has tunnel vision regarding her latest obsession.'

I suppose you think Aaron Banks comments were appropriate then?

jura .....it’s quite possible to agree with Urmstongran’s comment while wishing Greta well in life.

But Sir important messages bear repeating and reinforcing. Do we really expect everyone involved in a cause to come up with practical solutions? Just giving the cause publicity can be the best solution. A member of the Royal Family can open a research lab but we don’t expect them to actually do the research themselves do we and come up with the solution?

A Severn barrage would destroy one of the largest wetland habitats in Europe. Would it really be worth it just to make about 4% of our energy needs?

Well, there you have it Gonegirl it shows what a dilemma this subject is!

There isn’t a simple solution is there lemon or else it would have been found. It’s all about risks, benefits, predictions, balances - bring realistic but having aspirations. And set against the background of the global economy and all that that implies. I just don’t like the piling up against GT that has happened on here and even worse elsewhere on social media. I’m not sure either that it’s kind or fair to accuse an idealistic young person of virtue signalling.

Gonegirl
There you have it in a nutshell - these arguments were raging for years. For every proposal for sustainable energy there is a valid counter argument.

At least Greta hasn't fallen into the hypocrisy trap of travelling to the US first class by air or on a private jet as so many of the climate change activists do - and will carry on doing. I expect she was offered free flights too.
Hope it's not too rough.

I will not look at the Banks link, thank you anyway, varian.

Suzie no, but then I don't think she just sees herself as a publicity campaign. I think, when she's urging the politicians and scientists to work together and her mother is talking about her being able to see CO2, that she believes she can make a real change, unlike the RF (with the exception of the Wokefulnesses) who recognise they are just there to cut the ribbon to the research facility. I've already said I don't think she's doing any harm and publicity for such issues is always good, but I certainly don't think she can be compared to Christ or that we should be giving thanks to God for here as has been suggested on here, and I don't think she's telling us or the experts what we/they aren't already very aware of.

lemongrove, what is your (and Urmstongran's) view of Aaron Banks comments?

I agree, it would be going down a very dangerous path to compare her to Jesus Christ SirChenjin, turning her into a cult figure. Or like Jeanne d'Arc who reportedly had hallucinations.
I do wonder, though, if she has already become that already to many?

What did Aaron Banks say. Is there a link?

The obnoxious little man said "Freak yachting accidents do happen in August".

Whilst I don't see the point of her making the crossing in such a vessel - I certainly am hoping she arrives safe and well

And apparently 'lefties don't have a sense of humour' - because people called him out on it. Odious little man.

I have a strong feeling there are some climate change deniers attacking GT as an easy win rather than attacking the science.

I haven't seen any attacks on Greta Thunberg, I have seen/read articles/posts expressing concern that this young girl is being manipulated.

The average 16 yr. old could not get a year off of school, her parents are either extremely wealthy to be able to fund her or she has wealthy backers who may/may not have an agenda and are happy to use Greta as an "acceptable face" for their message?

I sincerely hope that she is being cared for both physically and mentally, as the worldwide media likes nothing better than to put a person on a pedestal and then systematically knock them down.

I hope that her journey across the Atlantic is a safe one, and that the sea is kind to her and her fellow sailors.

I believe Greta's father will also be on the boat. Greta looks much younger than her age but acts and speaks like someone a lot older. Her confidence as a public speaker and fluency in English, which is presumably not her first language is most impressive. Sixteen year olds can vary hugely in their level of maturity and Greta, in spite of her schoolgirl appearance does seem exceptionally mature.

So tell me GG13, what is your opinion of climate change?

Aaron Banks is disgusting. I find it hard to believe anyone would wish Greta anything but a safe journey, regardless of how you view the enterprise. He says it was a joke, thought they were supposed to be funny??

I think we all wish Greta a safe journey. And an enjoyable one as well (though sailing across the Atlantic in a sailing boat would not be my cup of tea, or even in the massive Queen Mary 2 to be honest, but that’s because I’m a big coward around boats.)

What she may achieve is obviously up for discussion, as proved here on this thread. But I think whether we agree or disagree with what she is doing, every one of us wish her a safe journey.

Aaron Banks is an irrelevance to be honest, but that’s my opinion of Twitter in general, best ignored.

GrannyGravy where did you get the information in your post from? Mandatory schooling in Sweden finishes at 16 so who told you only someone privileged/wealthy etc could get a year off school?

Oh if only AB were an irrelevance ?

We can chose to ignore twitter, and I'm sure many of our generation do, but millions are influenced by it. As of 2018 there were more than 320 million who accessed twitter at least once a month and are doubtless influenced by those they follow. That is why politicians like Trump tweet all the time.

Arron Banks is a dangerous individual, his poisonous ultra right wing ideas, almost certainly funded by Russia, were promoted by the brexit liars and climate change denial is a key policy of the ultra right, hence his attack on Greta Thunberg.

Arron Banks has defended his widely-criticised tweet about teenage climate activist Greta Thunberg, saying his post was "a joke".

The Brexit-backing businessman initially tweeted: "Freak yachting accidents do happen in August."

His remarks were in response to a post about the 16-year-old's ongoing transatlantic voyage in a racing yacht.

It sparked a negative reaction from other Twitter users, who called the Leave.EU founder "vile", and reminded him of Thunberg's age.

One Twitter user, @smilinglaura, said: "Veiled death threats towards a 16-year-old. What a vile individual."
Another user, Ian Maher, said: "You should be ashamed. But that presupposes a moral compass."

news.sky.com/story/arron-banks-defends-vile-greta-thunberg-tweet-it-was-a-joke-11785625