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'woman' - a change in the definition of the word

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Gonegirl Mon 12-Aug-19 10:47:24

Maybe you can't genetically change your gender. But you can, or should, be allowed to live a normal, happy, life in the gender you are sure you should have been assigned to.

RosieLeah Mon 12-Aug-19 10:43:43

It's pandering to the minority again. What will happen to 'girl', 'lady', 'lass'...will they be redundant too?

This whole thing about gender is becoming ridiculous. Plus, whatever anyone says, you can't change your gender. You might cut off the superfluous bits and dress in clothes associated with the opposite sex, but genetically, you stay the gender you were born with.

Gonegirl Mon 12-Aug-19 10:08:45

Well, if someone has (quote from article) "taken the decision to undergo a process for the purpose of becoming female”, then that person will have to be included as female. You can't have it all ways. Either you accept some people are living the wrong gender, or you don't.

I think what the article mainly illustrates is how easily the Scottish Government can get itself tied up in knots. And they want independence! grin

GabriellaG54 Mon 12-Aug-19 10:02:45

I'm talking about umpteen genders, not rights.
Human 'rights' are a recent addition to the plethora of rules, restrictions and gags mainly imposed by the pc brigade.
I don't agree with any of it.
That is soley my choice and I certainly don't criticise anyone else's choice.
Each to their own.

Fennel Mon 12-Aug-19 09:49:13

Maw I love that song too.
I sometimes wonder where the word 'woman' comes from.
A man with a womb?

FarNorth Mon 12-Aug-19 09:47:03

Human rights are tosh, GG54?

GabriellaG54 Mon 12-Aug-19 08:59:13

I can't be r- sd with all that nonsense.
Utter tosh.

absent Mon 12-Aug-19 07:41:12

*BradfordLass72" We say feminist and feminism because women have struggled and continue to struggle to get a fair share of the cake, among other things. There is no point talking about human rights when men have been able to take seven-eighths of the cake and leave the women with the leftover slice. The women have already been sidelined.

However, human rights also matter – in politics, in war zones, in education and so on. Because human rights matter for all, doesn't mean that women's rights are unimportant.

BradfordLass72 Mon 12-Aug-19 02:10:55

Why do we say, 'feminist' and 'feminism' ?

We don't say, 'masculinist' or 'masculinism' - we take male rights for granted.

We should be striving for human rights, which would preclude the torturous proving or disproving of gender.

Wheniwasyourage Sun 11-Aug-19 19:49:48

I have just re-read 'The Handmaid's Tale' after many years (didn't see the TV series) and am alarmed to think that the obliteration of women's freedom was given great impetus in that book by computer manipulation of financial affairs. I just wonder if it would be easy enough to do something similar now that we are all so reliant on computers...

NanaandGrampy Sun 11-Aug-19 17:49:36

I love that song Maw .

I wonder how long it will take before the word woman is extinct ☹️

MawB Sun 11-Aug-19 17:26:13

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTYIT8XhrCU

Oh dear do. superannuated civil servants and politicians really have nothing better to do?
Give me this definition any day

FarNorth Sun 11-Aug-19 17:17:13

www.scotsman.com/news/politics/concerns-raised-over-scottish-government-s-definition-of-the-word-woman-1-4981283?fbclid=IwAR02vtyGSWay_S3cC3E7FiPaZ4t6iJZLgmTrhrq_LamWvmjoUxUJQUgk8xw

FarNorth Sun 11-Aug-19 16:14:56

In the new Bill, the definition was changed from “a female of any age” – the definition in the UK Equality Act of 2010, which protects women against sex discrimination – to include a “person who has the protected characteristic of gender reassignment”.

the legislation does “not require an appointing person to ask a candidate to prove whether they meet the definition of woman in the Act”.

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/concerns-raised-over-scottish-government-s-definition-of-the-word-woman-1-4981283?fbclid=IwAR02vtyGSWay_S3cC3E7FiPaZ4t6iJZLgmTrhrq_LamWvmjoUxUJQUgk8xw