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FarNorth Fri 12-Jul-19 22:43:21

As well as crossing out 'gender' to replace it with 'sex', you can write / email to the organisation involved to state your objections to this source of inaccuracy.

FarNorth Fri 12-Jul-19 22:40:33

petunia this has come about because of sustained campaigning by trans rights organisations.
They have claimed that changes should be made to the law in order to be fair to a tiny minority of the population who are trans.
They have also given 'equality training' to local councils, health authorities, police forces, schools etc where they stated that equality for trans people meant accepting a person's self-declared gender as being their sex and treating them as that sex in all situations.
The result has been a huge increase in people identifying as trans without gaining a Gender Recognition Certificate, along with the acceptance, which you have seen, of their chosen gender replacing their sex.

GabriellaG54 Fri 12-Jul-19 22:34:52

I'm in agreement with the OP.
Cross out the word gender and replaced with 'sex'.

FarNorth Fri 12-Jul-19 22:27:53

Blood donation clinics also keep a look out for health problems in donors, especially the level of iron in the blood.
This is different for men and women.
The normal hemoglobin range is 12.0 to 15.5 grams per deciliter for an adult woman and 13.5 to 17.5 grams per deciliter for an adult man.
www.healthline.com/health/iron-deficiency-anemia#causes

suziewoozie Fri 12-Jul-19 22:14:00

www.blood.co.uk/news-and-campaigns/news-and-statements/call-for-more-men-to-give-blood-as-new-figures-show-twice-as-many-women-as-men-became-new-year-donors/

suziewoozie Fri 12-Jul-19 22:10:45

Yhttps://www.blood.co.uk/news-and-campaigns/news-and-statements/call-for-more-men-to-give-blood-as-new-figures-show-twice-as-many-women-as-men-became-new-year-donors/

It’s useful to know the sex of a blood donor so that, as is the case, one sex is donating less than another, it should influence your publicity strategy.

Gonegirl Fri 12-Jul-19 22:04:41

I don't think it matters which word they use.

Gonegirl Fri 12-Jul-19 22:03:46

I mean, why did they need to know?

Gonegirl Fri 12-Jul-19 22:01:31

Has blood got a sex? Or gender? confused

notanan2 Fri 12-Jul-19 19:57:18

Intersex has nothing to do with transgenderism and in fact it causes problems when intersex people are forced to attend gender clinics to obtain HRT so please do not conflate the two!

XXY people are male with an EXTRA COPY of their X chromosome.

The presence of X chromosomes does not = female. Everyone has X chromosomes. Female is the absence of Y chromosomes.

Intersex people are not "a bit of both" and should not be (miss) used in the trans debate.

Some intersex people identify as transgender. But no more frequently than XX or XY people do.

MissAdventure Fri 12-Jul-19 19:49:51

Sex is a very different to gender these days, because people can self identify, and there are ever more genders.

I would cross out gender and write sex instead, as I agree, it is the thin end of the wedge.

ElaineI Fri 12-Jul-19 19:31:33

Not sure I understand the point about men as it is the same issue for women too.
Also sex is not always definite at birth as some babies are intersex and require specialist assessment.

petunia Fri 12-Jul-19 19:23:00

I take a keen interest in the debate around all things gender and feel horrified that women are being sidelined to make way for some vocal groups of men. Daily we see boundaries blurred and women being expected to stand aside in order that a man can win that race or get that job or even just invade our public loos.

Part of the problem in my view is that the word sex has been replaced by the word gender. Sex, in most cases, is clear, scientific, one thing or the other. Sex isn't assigned at birth, it is observed and documented. In most cases, the observer does not need to be a health professional.

Gender is a less clear, less scientific state. It is fluid, changing and depends who is telling the tale. It means many things to many people.

In a nutshell, sex and gender have different meanings. One other is definite, the other is more of a spectrum.

So, why have official forms adopted the term gender in place of sex. I filled one in today before donating blood. Surely the term gender has no place in a fact based procedure. Dozens of explicit questions about my health from contact with zeeko virus to body piercing, yet blood transfusion aren't really sure whether I'm male or female or a woman who feels like a man or a man who feels like a woman.

While it may seen a trivial thing to twist knickers over, it is the thin end of the wedge. Where sexes are treated differently, for example health, clear, unambiguous facts are paramount. NHS planning needs clear facts to work on ,otherwise there may time, money and energy will be wasted inviting trans women for smears and mammograms. Or trans-men for prostate advice.

So, to the point. Where organisations have jumped on the gender bandwagon, would crossing out gender on official forms and writing, in black ink,sex be acceptable?