What should they be paid?

Parents on average pay can’t afford to work part-time. If they are paid £100000 a year I don’t blame them for working very short hours but this is a major cause of the shortage of GPs.

The carers who came in every day , so cheerful and helpful were paid less than £8.00an hour , they need a rise in earnings

Family friendly hours opions are one of the few things retaining and attracting UK GPs, its otherwise a very undesirable place to work as a GP so you couldnt be more wrong watermelon

I was a part time GP. I was well paid but I worked very hard .10-11 hour days. A lot of stress and worry. I am really glad I was a GP and wouldn't have missed it for the world. I could never have coped with FT work plus a family. As for 'certificates and ash money paying for the groceries'!! Ours went straight to the practice account and was obviously taxed and eventually part of our earnings. Personally I think GP's earn their money. I am not saying GPs work harder than many other people in society.

Eazybee I think more mums would work full time if the dads did 50% of all the childcare and household tasks.

I think pay should reflect the time and cost to train, the responsibility/ stress of the job and the hours. Bin men do not need to spend years at Uni and in training and have very little stress.

I would say pay nurses more (they have to train, work unsocial hours in a hazardous job), and paramedics and firefighters.

As I said upthread, I thought the ‘bin men’ are quite well paid these days, which they are.
Cleaners ( whilst not the best job in the world) are also paid much more ( in relative terms) as are gardeners and are bus drivers.

MissA temporary jobs will be lower paid.

Nurses and the police are already paid well ( I know as we have both in the family.)

You must obviously live down South then Lemongrove !

Average wage is £8.51 an hour, according to Google.
I don't consider that a good wage, though it does say it varies from place to place.

Yes EV I do.

I've just read a brilliantly funny book about the life of a junior doctor (This is going to hurt - diaries of a junior doctor - Adam Kay). It is hilarious as he takes us through all the anecdotes but eye-opening too. He worked out that at one point he was on £6.60 an hour and that the car park meter definitely made more per hour than he did. When you think they are in life and death situations, it is appalling.
I worked in a private nursery many moons ago and was appalled by the rate of pay. And, as a student, I worked in a care home - again, appalling rates of pay and conditions. Seems the most vulnerable in our society recieve the poorest care.

Esme things have moved on since those days regarding rates of pay.

Although junior doctors have always worked extremely hard in hospitals, racing from one patient to the next.

lemongrove, sorry did you mean things have improved for junior doctors? Or maybe, with the introduction of the minimum wage, nursery nurses et al get paid decently?

Both actually, and.....

Bin men earn a basic salary of £24,000 to £26,000 a year.
£12 per hour bus drivers
Gardeners (gardeners who know what they are doing, not the ones who just raze everything to the ground and sprinkle some lawn feed) charge £20-40 per hour.

Anecdotes: We paid a gardener £22 an hour when we needed help a couple of years ago.
Our window cleaner charges £14 ( he whizzes through it in about 40 mins.) That’s because he never stops talking?
Our DD pays a cleaner£40 for two hours a week.

Esme I read Adam Kay’s book too.
I thought it was tragic.
A dedicated junior doctor lost to the NHS because of overwork and poor supervision from senior doctors.

I must remember to tell my student medic daughter that she can earn £100k a year for just two or three days work if she becomes a GP. It sounds like a great specialism!

janeainsworth, you're right - it was tragic.

There seems to be a basic lack of understanding that part-time professional jobs are paid pro rata!
Job sharing is popular in teaching and a teacher working two and a half days a week is paid half a salary. Like all teachers, with full of part-time contracts they are not paid overtime for all the extra hours outwith scheduled classroom hours.

Here in my town Nurses, police officers , teachers etc. Are some of the very best paid. Most unskilled/semi skilled private sector jobs are minimum wage or thereabouts and we have high unemployment too .

Nurses are leaving their profession for jobs at Lidl who pay nearly £37,000 for a graduate manager against a newly qualified nurse who starts at £23,000. Plus I know that a car is provided too.

This article was in the Nursing Times a year ago where it also stated that there was a chronic shortage of 40,000 nurses.

Whatever pay a nurse gets it is still not enough.

Advocating teachers double pay...? ???
They work a 5 day week, often reduced to 4.5 days due to funding cuts and have access to a better pension than most.
Their starting salary is better than the majority of graduates going into other professions (2019 gov survey) and the minimum days worked are 195/365 meaning that their holiday a are far far more generous than in any other employment.
In the private sector salaries are higher, holidays longer and perks often include on site accomodation.

I agree harrigran. Their workload now is twice as heavy as it used to be, but their salary doesn't reflect this. Some even had to take a pay cut too which is criminal.