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Jcxx Sun 23-Jun-19 12:39:20

On Wednesday my Mam was visiting us, we had a meal then I noticed a message on my phone. It was from my auntie who I haven't seen in 21 years asking if I knew that my Dad had had major surgery. My Dad is estranged and has not bothered for years. I was absolutely gobsmacked not only because of the message I had just got but because my Mam knew all about it & had known for over a week and has not said a thing. She says she doesn't have or want anything to do with him and they were divorced years ago.
I had to get away from my Mam as I couldn't believe it, I couldn't speak or anything, she was then in denial trying to turn and put things on me.
I just don't understand any of it!!
I then after some time messaged my auntie back. Saying that I didn't know and hope he is ok etc etc. The messages from her went on and on. Basically her trying to get me to go and see him and explaining all the in depth surgery and even offering to pay my trainfare. It came across as though she wanted me there to be there to stay with him cos she didn't want to. Trying to put me on a guilt trip. I said to her that I haven't heard or seen anything from him for years. He hasn't let me know anything about this surgery at all either. She said I need to put things right because he wants to and I explained that there isn't anything to put right. That he never has been interested in me or my kids for a long time and became estranged. I felt I had to keep repeating what I said over and over as she asking the same thing even though I had answered her. Then the things she was saying that apparently he had told her to text where lies and I've heard it all before. She kept messaging and phoning and I tried to ignore it but in the end I started getting pissed off and I just said sorry but it's all aload of bollocks. Then she changed her tune and started to say your dad could have died and you clearly don't want to put things right he does. He has admitted he should have done more and is now trying to make it right. I said I always did 99% then I stopped. Then she said if I don't want to make the effort that's up to me but he does. I said he is no part of our life and that was his choice years ago. My auntie then tried to make out I was stupid and naive then she said at least I can't say he hasn't bothered..the cheek!! I ended up telling her to give it a rest and that she has no clue she wrote I find you very disrespectful and I said I just keep it real.
I have been the last person to know about this last surgery. My Mam has kept things from me but still visited me and me her. Then all this from me dad and aunties side. My head is mashed!!
My dad being estranged is one thing then him having surgery is another my auntie has put the two things together.
I don't understand any of them my Mam?? And My dad, auntie?? Does anyone else.. All honesty appreciated thanks

Jcxx Mon 24-Jun-19 02:10:48

I was with my Mam when I received the message from my Auntie about my Dad. That's when I then found out she also new. As I see her and spend time with her for her too hold information, I just don't understand. I would never do that to my children

Summerlove Mon 24-Jun-19 01:35:45

jcxx I’m sorry, it wasn’t clear, I’m still very confused why you are mad at your mother

Jcxx Mon 24-Jun-19 01:02:11

Urmstrongran: There was nothing to pick up on. I clearly explained that I was shocked and upset

agnurse Mon 24-Jun-19 00:26:13

gonegirl

Summerlove is quite correct. No one is guaranteed a set amount of time.

If OP's father has chosen not to be part of her life, then he doesn't have a right to expect that he will become a part of her life just because he had a health scare.

Summerlove Sun 23-Jun-19 23:33:42

gonegirl, neither do young people. Anyone could pass at any moment. That’s why people of all ages should reach out to those they want to be in touch with.

I wasn’t aware that I could only call or text people older than me first. My phone is obviously broken

Urmstongran Sun 23-Jun-19 22:54:34

Sorry Jcxx it was sharon103’s ex who lived 5 miles away.
I read all the posts then that must’ve stuck in my head.

You did seem annoyed with your mum though (and I wasn’t the only poster to pick up on it).

Good luck anyway, whatever you decide to do.

Jcxx Sun 23-Jun-19 22:45:17

Who lives 5 miles away?? Bit her head off?? Did you even read my story

Urmstongran Sun 23-Jun-19 21:33:18

I agree with agnurse a sick jerk is still a jerk.
Well said.
And now he only lives 5 miles away.

Be careful opening that can of worms.
He made a choice. He should live with it.

I feel sorry for your mum if you bit her head off.

Esther1 Sun 23-Jun-19 21:27:54

I suspect it will put your mind a little more at ease if you do just see him just for a little while, don’t make a secret of it or let others turn it into a big deal.

Jcxx Sun 23-Jun-19 21:27:46

Gone girl: I'm being kind to myself, I feel alot of narcissistic games go on

Jcxx Sun 23-Jun-19 21:21:52

Reply to gone girl:I would lose my sanity, my peace and alot more. I have tried years ago his energy, his attitude, everything is off

silverlining48 Sun 23-Jun-19 20:20:49

I think I might be a bit wary, certainly if he has contacted your sister he could and should, if he wants to see you, contact you himself. It’s strange his sister has been in touch on his behalf after so many years.
Think carefully whether you want anything to do with him. Just because he is your birth father but hasn’t been a good one means you don’t have to do anything other than what you want, and if you don’t want, you need do nothing.

Gonegirl Sun 23-Jun-19 20:18:36

Old people may not have long to live.

That's all.

Summerlove Sun 23-Jun-19 20:14:21

Why do the young need to reach out?

In a HEALTHY relationship both. should reach out.

This poster does not have a healthy relationship with her father.

Gonegirl Sun 23-Jun-19 20:10:42

The young should reach out to the old.

Gonegirl Sun 23-Jun-19 20:10:07

A sick jerk is still a jerk

Lovely.

Gonegirl Sun 23-Jun-19 20:09:01

If your dad, however much estranged, is getting on in age, and has had major surgery, are you sure you wouldn't like to be kind and contact him? Maybe his sister realises how hurt he feels about the whole thing. Have you really got anything to lose by contacting him?

mumofmadboys Sun 23-Jun-19 20:05:00

Could you go and see him for a brief visit and see how it goes? You may regret not seeing him if anything happens to him. There are two sides to every story. Maybe you can both make amends and have some sort of ongoing relationship. He has obviously hurt you badly but you may feel more at peace with it all if you saw him. Wishing you well.

love0c Sun 23-Jun-19 19:17:48

Jcxx, so sorry for how you must be feeling. The confusion of feelings coupled with your emotions. My advice is to sit and think how you feel. Forget your mum and her not telling you, forget your auntie and what she has said. Think only of how you feel about whether you want to see your dad and see how he feels. Whether he is actually sorry and whether you are interested in whether he is sorry or not. A hard thing to do for you. But you must separate everybody else from how you want your relationship with your dad to go from here. I hope you make the right decision for you. Wishing you love through all this.

agnurse Sun 23-Jun-19 16:14:45

I agree with the PPs - where is your dad in all of this? He's out of ICU. Meaning he is on the floor. Meaning he is likely able to send you a text or call.

A sick jerk is still a jerk. I wouldn't be hopeful that this "desired" reconciliation would go very far.

Avor2 Sun 23-Jun-19 15:20:16

If he is so desperate to see you he should make the running, not your aunt. He contacted your sister, did she react, has she met up with him since then? Leave well alone, if you aren't interested in seeing him just ignore, but if he contacts you himself will that make a difference to you? Families eh! you have managed so far without him !!

Jcxx Sun 23-Jun-19 14:56:34

I don't see or talk to my aunt. But I do talk and see and spent time with my mam

sharon103 Sun 23-Jun-19 14:39:51

It's the same old story ( as it is in my household) Ex husband didn't want to know my 3 Adult children when they were growing up and now he's getting older, 65 and has health problems and had operations and lived on his own for a good few years, he has hoped they now want to reconcile with him. My daughter sees him now and again. My two sons don't want anything to do with him. I leave them to it and tell them they do what they want to do. They're not children anymore and we've had enough stress and upset from him to last a lifetime although he had moved away for years. He's only living about 5 miles away from us now.
Getting back to you, I am thinking that your mum didn't tell you because she was protecting you and herself from raking up the past. I guess she doesn't want to hear about him again and I can understand that believe me.
It's got nothing to do with auntie either. She chose to tell you about your dad and she should have left it at that.
Just leave it be if that's what you want to do. It's your choice. Can you ever get back to what it used to be like with your dad years ago and the love you had? I doubt it. There's to much water gone under the bridge.
If it were me, I wouldn't bring the subject up again to your mum. Don't be harsh with her. The past has come back to haunt her. I really can understand her feelings and just tell auntie to back off in a polite way. Don't feel guilty should you not want to see dad again. He made his own bed and now he must lie in it as the saying goes. I hope all goes well for you

Summerlove Sun 23-Jun-19 14:39:33

But why your mother at all?

She knows you are estranged. Why would she bring up something to upset you that you likely wouldn’t want to know about?

You’re angry that you’re on it told you, and you were angry that your mother didn’t.

I think you need to take a few steps back and reflect about what you are actually angry about.

Jcxx Sun 23-Jun-19 14:15:22

I am upset and confused with with all of them not just my mam