Recording Boris and partner

trisher, I do not support anyone who is part of this current Tory Party. What I whole heartedly wish to see is a General Election held that would bring this Brexit debacle to and end once and for all.

Gabriella, then who did call the police? Someone did. There's nothing wrong with collecting evidence when there is a possibility a crime is being committed. The fact he may have had some ulterior motive for later publishing it doesn't make it any less useful to have gathered it - the police may have wanted it.

The neighbours knew darn well that Boris practically lived there and besides seeing him, must have read and heard about it in the media.
It follows that he recognised his voice too and that decided his course of action. Not to immediately ring police...oh no...but to stand by the adjoining wall holding his phone to capture the fracas.
If he honestly thought that a candidate for PM and a well known person before that, would physicslly attack, maim, harm, murder, assault or rape his g/f then he's madder than the proverbial bof.

So Grandad1943 do you consider Jeremy Hunt the better option because he is safely monogamous?

Just because we’ve had plenty of politicians with dubious private lives -( didn’t Gladstone go out to meet “fallen women”? ) and problems with alcohol, doesn’t mean it’s something to be lauded or ignored. With social media, they’ll find it much more difficult to hide any dirty laundry , it all will be public sooner or later. I think the public can tolerate a certain degree of imperfection in their representatives, but there has to be limits. Lying ,laziness and deception in his previous jobs would be red lines for most people who give it any thought.

His neighbour did the right thing reporting it to the police.

His neighbour did the wrong thing sending a recording to the Grauniad - he is obviously a Corbynista Guardianista looking to cause trouble

Cherrytree59 Quote [ Grandad fot those with a career in the public eye, how many 'stable marriages'?
Just the one?
Three? ] End Quote.

I am the first to accept that any relationship can fail, but it is how any person handles that failure that to me speaks on their character.

Boris (The Buffoon) Johnson obviously thinks only of himself when it comes to personal relationships with others. He seems to have little thought for previous wives and partners when his latest "antics" attract publicity to former relationship members at it has in the press.

As stated any personal relationship can fail, but a person (especially those in the public eye) can move on to a fresh relationship quietly and with dignity while still holding respect for the privacy of former participants in their life. In that, several of Johnsons former wives and partners have attracted what must be very unwanted press attention over many days of recent.

Johnson has demonstrated he is totally incapable of the above respect, as only he matters in that warped mind of his as he moves on yet again to whoever is silly enough to be attracted to him.

I believe he has never placed any real effort into making any of his previous relationships work, and in that, I have no respect for him or any other person who lives and thinks in that vein.

Yes agreed, both ghastly in their own slimy way, but one of them is going to be PM. The only hope is they will be the 3rd prime minister in 3 years, and will not last any longer than their predecessors.

spabbygirl actually The Guardian article proves nothing except that Boris is as incompetent in his private life as he is in his public, and personally I would rather see a proper analysis of his failures as Mayor and minister than have his personal failures waved in front of me. Because what emerges from this is that Jeremy Hunt beng a 'proper married man" is the best option, whereas in fact both candidates are equally as useless and incompetent professionally. That's the danger of taking into account private lives, someone who is no better than another candidate somehow becames better, because he doesn't screw around. It's not the way I want to choose a government and certainly not a PM.

It is ridiculous, isn't it? As people are so mercenary these days do you think they were hoping to sell the tape to the highest bidder? Or am I being too cynical?

There is an old-fashioned question that should be asked when considering any person seeking high office "would you buy a used car from this man/woman"?

Anniebach poor Charles Kennedy was unfortunately an alcoholic, but otherwise he was a lovely man, an honest politician (such a rarity now), a man of principles, funny at times but very serious in his political focus, charismatic without being narcissistic and most importantly a decent human being.

Boris Johnson is none of these things.

Having just read through this thread, I am utterly horrified by the number of people bending over backwards to defend the indefensible : a man who has lied and lied to the British people, shown himself to be racist, misogynistic and homophoic, and ruthless in the pursuit of power. As mayor of London he wasted millions of pounds of taxpayers 'money on vanity projects that were useless. As Foreign Secretary he made us a global laughing stock and because he was too lazy to read his briefs properly caused a woman wrongfully imprisoned in Iran to be locked up for even longer. Why would anyone defend such a man?
And before anyone calls me a lefty, if being a lefty means believing in telling the truth, respecting human rights, investing in education, health and all those other things that make for a civilised society, then yes, I am a proud lefty.
My only hope is that all those normalising disgraceful behaviour are Russian bots!

this is why it matters

www.theguardian.com/politics/commentisfree/2019/jun/22/boris-johnson-character-issue-nation

I don't particularly care who or what a politician is currently f......g. I do care that they are honest, have principles and some understanding of real life. Johnson has none of those qualities. I do think that if Parliament was composed of a wider variety of people with different private lives we might get better government. As it is it remains a haven for white married men whose lives are much as they were in the 19th century, whilst outside the Westminster bubble things have moved on. (I suppose the men have moved on in that they used to stay married and keep mistresses, they are now serial husbands)

I wouldn't defend anyone no matter who it was if they were in the throes of a drunken argument.

I wonder how many of these opinions would be different if it was Jeremy Corbyn? It seems to me that the Tories can do absolutely anything and people will defend them.

Now I am thinking of poor Charles Kennedy , this thread is
depressing me

trisher in fairness there has been many posts on Johnson’s marriages,

Grandad fot those with a career in the public eye, how many 'stable marriages'?
Just the one?
Three?

Trisha, the fact that he is divorced is not a cause for concern, but the fact that he is a bully surely is.

Johnson's personality accounts for a large part of his appeal to voters. He has a poor record as Mayor of London (the Boris bikes scheme was set up by Livingstone, his predecessor, and he wasted £53 million on a bridge that never got built). He was an embarrassing disaster as Foreign Secretary, never on top of his brief. But people like him. His fellow Telegraph writer, Quentin Letts, wrote a piece in the Sun, saying that Boris breaks rules, bonks, and supports Brexit, and that's why the elite hate him (as if he was not part of the elite). Since his chaotic personal life is presented to us as part of his bumbling charm, isn't it just as well that we know about the more unpleasant aspects of his character?

Grandad1943what a chauvinistic and old fashioned view. Marriages break down for all sorts of reasons and the idea that only people who maintain a stable marriage are suitable for public office should have gone out with the Victorians. As it is there are people in all sorts of relationships in every area of life and the only prerequisite should be can they do the job well? Everything else is superfluous. And quite frankly I find your post insulting to those of us who have endured the failure of a relationship and divorce. What you are in fact saying is we are not as good as you, well sorry but actually a lot of us are better. We have more empathy and we understand more than some married people ever will.

I have been looking up past PM’s,only two were divorced ,
poor Macmillan comes to mind ,the press didn’t report anything about his marriage

The topic and content of domestic arguments are certainly not for public consumption or investigation. Where would it end? If anyone deserves scrutiny it is a neighbour who records someone’s private argument then sells it to a newspaper.