a man’s internal feeling that he is a woman has no basis in material reality?

Weeelll Bridgeit.... yeah. Not sure any of us saw the lady dick thing coming....

Ooop just realised what I did there..

Ohhh yes I most certainly do.
You have no idea what I have worked with & dealt with, your flippant descriptions are not in the least bit useful or helpful

"I'm a women, but quite relaxed about the trans women issue, I imagine most women are" in your world maybe! That certainly wasn't the case with the female bathers at the Hampstead "women only" pond, who were less than happy when transwomen started to use them, the "mixed" bathing ponds weren't to their liking for some inexplicable reason. Conversely, when women tried to access the "men only" pond they were ejected. I imagine most women won't be happy having their women only spaces threatened, spaces where they may feel quite vulnerable. Only works one way it seems transwomen into female only spaces

I will never enjoy sucking anything from a lolly to lozenge again,
For me You have now sullied the use of the words suck & sucking ?

Yeah because you cant care about poverty and girls/womens rights huh?

Meanwhile else where in the world little humans, grown humans, every type of man /womankind are still starving, homeless, society less, love less etc etc ..... but hey let’s worry about what titles we attribute to every connotation of us beings who/ whom are so called ‘Humans’ !
Seriously who cares, does it matter? Let’s Choose a tag to label our selves with & get on with life thankfully with a roof over our head & food in our bellies ?

Here is a natal woman, with no direct personal experience of being a transwoman who got her skull fractured because we are not allowed to say "hang on, transwomen are not actually the sames as natal women though are they?..."

bjj-world.com/transgender-mma-fighter-fallon-fox-breaks-skull-of-her-female-opponent/

Not her problem??

Another poster just gave you an example of how trans ideology is overriding (not co existing with) womens issues in the Green party.

This thread is about a woman who is not allowed to say what a woman biologically is.

This. Affects. Women.

Maybe you wouldn't be so relaxed if you were a pre pubescent girl emerging from a toilet and being asked by a trans woman about your periods and what tampons you use and how you insert them.

Most of us here are older women we aren't the ones who are going to be most affected by those extremists who want to invade all female spaces where many women and girls and want their privacy.

Varian I just gave you an example of my first hand experience of how self ID is affecting women in my workplace in a problematic way!

I am a woman, but quite relaxed about this trans issue, I imagine like most women are.

It just surprises me that other women who don't seem to have any first hand knowledge, or family, friends or aquaintances experiencing these problems, seem to spend so much time reading about it and getting worked up about it.

"when I say a word it means whatever I want it to mean" so said Humpty Dumpty, well before he fell off the wall and ended up cracked

P.s. "sex" has been replaced with "gender identity"

The race, disability etc boxes remain as was..

Varian might also be happy to work at a place like where I work, where data on all protected characteristics except sex are being collected and analysed in relation to staff satisfaction, progression, stress and bullying.

I am not. But its okay that Varian feels okay about that.

What is not okay is pretending that it doesnt directly affect me, or women in general. In very real ways.

Feel how you like. But dont pretend its not happening and not directly affecting natal women

Incels are men who express rage towards women who dont want to f*ck them basically. It means Involuntarily Celebate. It is a whole depressing rabbit hole that you dont want to google if you are enjoying a pleasant monday evening...

I cant see that telling lesbians that they cant say that lesbians dont want their dick can be interpreted any differently TBH

You might be happy to be a non-man, Varian. I, and many other women, are not. This is how the Green Party regards those of us who not of the male sex - we are no longer women.

For a person with a penis and testicles to say they are having heavy periods is preposterous. On that basis why don't we, the female posters on GN, ask to have our prostates examined and if we did just that, would our GPs not come to conclusion that we had a form of psychosis. What sort of a world are we entering if we have to lie about basic biological facts

Its the same mentality as incels.

I don't know what this means , please explain.

Also you say that "
They still don't. Lots of lesbians and transvestites etc are on the gender critical side of this too. Miranda Yardly who I linked just a few posts back for her blog exposing JY, is a transwomen herself. A gender critical one who opposes self ID

yet this debate is fired by the transwomen who are showing anger towards females born as women, and there are plenty of other examples on this thread.....so I am very pleased to read that many transwomen are not angry but clearly many are.
The last comment I read refers to transwomen having periods ?? and lesbians being taught to suck a dick without referencing it as a dick.......this is not a female friendly attitude.

Maya Forstater did not need to have experience of being a transwoman for self ID trans ideology to affect her life directly.

Women arent allowed to accurately describe their own biology. It affects us!

Once again, I have first hand experience of being a woman. It is not what transactivists describe as what makes a "real woman". I do not wished to be re-categorised by how much I "express gender"

Saying that you cant change biological sex is not "anti trans". Many trans identifying people agree.

Saying that being a transwoman is not the same experience as being a natal woman is not anti trans.

Many individuals will have many and varied experiences, and if we do a lot of googling we can find them for sure,
but it is interesting to know why some who do not have first hand knowledge of any of these cases seem to become obsessed with the issue.

I would imagine trans women are not a homogeneous group of people

Yes!
And as such, being anti self ID, anti mermaids, anti trans activists does not = being anti trans

Not least because people from the LGBT community are also anti self-ID, anti mermaids, anti trans activists etc...

I would imagine trans women are not a homogeneous group of people just like any other demographic, and the vast majority are reasonable people. The comments are specific to the extreme end of the spectrum and in this case one individual, you really need to read the link Varian.

Female only intimate waxing services were sure redefined for those beauticians, some of whom solo worked or worked from their own homes.

Female prisoners who have a right to be in female only prisons are being redefined..