International Women's Day - Speak to your MP

Please do contact your MP about this, if you want to see women's and girls' rights protected, alongside rights for trans people.

Standing up for women & girls is for always, not just for International Women's Day.

Sorry to hear that NotSpaghetti.

They manage to fit in thinking about a lot of things FarNorth - she was SO less than useless that I struggle to comprehend what she might have been able to think about beyond where she might go on holiday or what shoes to put on in the morning!

My MP, some years ago, was less than useless. Sadly.

with all respect to the OP, just at this moment I would rather my MP was concentrating on other matters.

MPs work full-time. They manage to fit in thinking about a lot of things.

All the people saying there's no point meeting your MPs - you don't know until you try.

No point talking to my MP, Robert Courts of the ERG, about anything! I do send him emails, as does my husband, but don't think there would be any point in meeting him.

I'd be interested to know what those things were, BRedhead59.

I watched an interview with Charlie Martin this morning she (born he) is a racing driver and was before she changed also. She came over exceptionally well and explained some things I didn't realise. There are many genuine cases and we need to ensure they are not discriminated against.

Brilliant news on International Women's Day.
We have just secured the first conviction on a woman who performed FGM on her daughter.
Perhaps we're taking it seriously now.

fennel I wasn’t mocking you, she was a remarkable woman, thank you for the link

ps I should have said the execution.

Neither - as a little girl I hated the Nazis. They took my dear Dad away for 4 years. b'h he returned, not like many other Dads.
I admire that lady and her sisters, just hope there wasn't retribution for what they did.

fennel is it the executions or seducing which appeal to you ?

I've been in some pretty foul women's toilets and the only time I've used a gents (at a motor way service station) it was perfectly clean.

Unisex toilets I HATE ,simply because men dont aim properly,and we sitting with our trousers down and them ending up in a "pool" is disgusting, sometimes Diabetics have used the toilet and the "pool" is "sticky" besides.I am happier to wait until I find a female toilet thank you.
I am ready to be hanged by GNs now.

I can't bear mixed sex toilets, they smell as bad as the gents do, have wet stinky floors, the seat often left up and then I have to touch it to put it down, a lot of young people say there is no problem with it, but they probably have never had the luxury of a nice clean wash room just for women.

Blimey Fennel remind me not to upset you

This 'sort of' came up in a thread about something else a week or so ago when a poster mentioned school toilets are now unisex. I had no idea. Am planning to ask my GD's when I see them. I did mention on the thread if anyone knows why but no one responded. Is it due to the problems of transgender pupils and not having the facilities to provide loos for every kind of person? So bung 'em all in together to save the cost of providing different rooms. I am not sure how the boys use urinals? And I think it's awful when the girls have their period or need a bowel movement. Knowing boys may be sniggering in the next cubicle.

Re grown ups, yes, what happens mid transition when you have taken the drugs, haven't got the beard, but still have a penis? Go into a female changing room where there could be children also? Someone I know, who is TV said he has heard of cases where prisoners have claimed to be women, moved to a womens' prison, then raped.

What a complicated society we now live in but I'm not sure how lobbying my MP can solve the problem of 'safe spaces' when I can't myself figure out what the answer is quite frankly.

Here's a picture Of Harnaarm Kaur the youngest woman to ever grow a full beard, she's in the Guiness Book of Records. You see you can't just judge by appearance
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-37305050
On International Women's Day let's contact our MPs about Period Poverty and the young women who are missing school because their families can't afford tampons, or about the families who use foodbanks, because more women are suffering from the use of zero hours contracts. OR about the woman who committed suicide when her benefits were stopped and the inquest blamed staff who acted in breach of the guidelines www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5572663/DWP-investigated-suicide-mother-nine-benefits-stopped.html

Now this is the kind of woman I would have liked to be:
www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12131326&fbclid=IwAR32uzegpduKGOksqZXHltmkUKdLYwiPFDD_39ZloGtxBhp6bkQyDOw_abo

www.grrlalex.co.uk/what-is-transgender/

Here is a picture of Alex Drummond, who is an advisor to Stonewall.
Should we happily accept people who look like Alex, as being women.
And if we do, what about people claiming to be women, who look like Alex and haven't bothered to put on a skirt and a necklace?

I don't think it's ambiguity that's an issue. Maybe, knickas63 it's a fear of the unknown?

I am more than happy to support anyone who feels they were born in the wrong gender. However, we also have to feel safe, and I am sorry MaryXYX, but this ambiguity can and does cause problems. I am not sure of the answer. Perhaps 3 loos etc in future. Male/Female/GN? It isn't the loos that are really the problem, it is other areas where women are now feeling unsafe. It is wrong to belittle that fear.

SueDoku - You may have Mark Garnier who as the Brexit Minister called his assistant ‘sugar tits’ and sent her to buy sex toys - but other people have Andrew Griffiths who as a minister made sexual demands over a series of 2,000 texts sent to two barmaids!
Don't think HE will be worth a visit either.