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chicken Sat 02-Mar-19 09:38:52

We (both ancient) live next door to a huge old house out in the countryside, It is due to be put up for sale but there are legal difficulties causing this to be delayed. The owner moved out over a year ago but left most of his possessions in the house. We hold the keys. Recently, intruders broke a window, got in and turned the place into even more of a tip than it was in the first place. The broken window was eventually boarded up . Within the past few days, there have been several more break ins and it's obvious that the place is being systematically robbed, A ladder has been brought in to access the attics, suitcases and trunks are now in the living rooms having been brought down from the (dangerously unstable) bedroom floor. We have called the police, having seen and photographed one group of these thieves leaving the property, but they weren't interested---just logged the information. Obviously we have phoned the owner who expresses concern, says he will come to inspect, but never turns up. We are very worried about it all , losing sleep and feeling very insecure. Thieves one day, probably squatters or the local hooligans to come as the word gets round. What can/should we do? I must add that although the house is only a few yards from ours, we can't see into it. To do this , we have to walk up a long drive, go along the road then down their overgrown driveway. OK, it's not our responsibility but it's really upsetting to know that these scumbags are there , just a few yards away, stealing at will.

Bez1989 Sun 03-Mar-19 15:38:58

AMEN NANNY. ...
Especially to your Last Sentence.

You're not being a "Bad Neighbour"
by returning the house keys to their rightful owner !!
Just don't get involved in any way
for your future peace of mind.

BE LIKE THE 3 MONKIES in this situation I M O.

sunshinethankssunshine

Selsey99 Sun 03-Mar-19 15:31:56

How awful for u hope things improve

Saggi Sun 03-Mar-19 14:22:41

Tell the owner to pick his keys up and tell him your not responsible for any trouble at house. How dare he ignore your concerns

DotMH1901 Sun 03-Mar-19 13:41:04

I wonder why the owner isn't protecting the property? It sounds as if it is in a dangerous state already - wondering if he is hoping it will be completely vandalised so he can have it demolished? Have seen this happen to a beautiful house when I lived in Dover. Owned by the Council it was neglected and eventually sold on - the developer who bought it left it to the vandals and then got permission to demolish it (which had been refused at the time he bought it) and that greatly increased the value of the land. I would send the keys back and put the responsibility firmly on to the owner again.

Nanny41 Sun 03-Mar-19 11:56:36

How awful,I would be frightened for my own property to be honest,get some kind of security for your house, and definately send the keys back by registered post,then contact the Council, before you get house sitters taking over this old property. Dont interfere with these hooligans you never know what they might do.

sarahellenwhitney Sun 03-Mar-19 11:54:49

You can do no more than what you have already done .
The fact it is ' logged' is now up to the owner not your responsibility ie that you knew what was going on but did nothing.

Happysexagenarian Sun 03-Mar-19 11:43:05

We had the same problem with a neighbouring house some years ago. The owner had left it and gone abroad, occasionally he returned to 'check on it' but after 15 years it was in very poor repair (one wall in danger of collapsing, broken windows, it flooded and there were often squatters, and a fire one night) but the owner said he couldn't afford to do the repairs and he refused to sell it as it had sentimental value. We contacted the Empty Properties Department at the local council (I think every council has one) and they served an order on him to repair it within a set time or they would compulsorily purchase it. He did nothing so the council took it over, completely refurbished it and added it to their social housing stock. It was a big house so ideal for a larger family. The owner did come back again just before the house was finished. He wasn't happy about losing it but he had received a substantial payment from the council which cleared his debts. So everyone was happy.

Merryweather Sun 03-Mar-19 11:36:12

Could you increase security for yourselves? CCTV system installation? Or even dummy cameras and alarm system?
Do keep on at the owner and police. They may increase patrols out to your area.
Take care, this is worrying.

Telly Sun 03-Mar-19 11:07:27

I would certainly up your security, you will feel more at ease. I have to agree with other posters who say you should think about handing the keys back. Let's hope that it is soon sold and the property is improved. You could also consider contacting the local council, perhaps a letter from them would get the owner to improve security, make it intruder proof etc.

NannyEm Sun 03-Mar-19 10:56:35

I agree with Mamissimo. You don't need the worry and have done what you can.

grumppa Sun 03-Mar-19 10:35:51

Contacting the local paper may produce some unwelcome publicity for you, and even more unwelcome attention from the villains.

ShewhomustbeEbayed Sun 03-Mar-19 10:18:52

I know you mentioned you live in the countryside but are there any other neighbours, perhaps on the other side ? Who may also have a vested interest and can also be raising their concerns ? Adding weight to yours.

omega1 Sun 03-Mar-19 10:13:26

Your responsibility is to look after yourselves, not your neighbours house who doesn't seem bothered about his house. Make sure your own house is secure and you aren't that close to the neighbours house, can't even see it unless you do a detour so I think you are safe. Don 't take on other people's problems or responsibilities

Coconut Sun 03-Mar-19 10:11:51

Get a local paper to highlight this story. It may get the Police and the owner motivated into do something ! Plus may deter thieves if they know the place is being monitored. The owner should install alarms at the very least. Anything’s worth a try as it’s distressing for you.

lizzypopbottle Sun 03-Mar-19 10:06:17

If the property is for sale with an estate agent, inform them and request that they collect the keys or you could post them and request a receipt. They should board the place up. Go on the police social media and complain loudly about the inaction. Eventually, the thieves will strip the place for copper pipes, wiring, manhole covers and other metal for scrap. The owner mustn't care how badly the damage will affect the sale price!

breeze Sun 03-Mar-19 09:48:54

Good advice on here. Stay well out of it and do not approach the property and put yourselves at risk.

Contact the council and let them involve the police who will listen to them.

I hope it's soon sold and developed into something pleasant to live alongside.

Maybe the owner moved out due to poor health which is why he hasn't sorted the problem out himself. It's not your responsibility to tackle this so please look after yourselves.

lovebeigecardigans1955 Sun 03-Mar-19 09:37:04

How horrible for you. I'd definitely go along with returning his keys. Why should you be responsible for his property if he can't be bothered to come round often to see if it's all right? Is there an Empty House officer at the council? Could you even pass the keys on to them?
I don't understand why houses are left empty when we have so many homeless people who could live there. There's also a guardianship scheme in some areas where empty properties are lived in by those who can take care of them in exchange for a small rent.
I've a friend who lives next to an empty house, the garden is full of bin bags and it's going to rack and ruin. It's not fair on you neighbours. Best of luck.

vickya Sun 03-Mar-19 09:36:33

Arlo cameras are about £100 and easy to fit apparently. Alarms are cheap on Amazon. Window and door.Other cameras will be cheaper.

Annaram1 Sun 03-Mar-19 09:36:20

BradfordLass is right, but perhaps it should be the owners of the other house who should get the alarm and camera fitted.
Near where I used to live was a mental hospital which had once been an enormous beautiful mansion. When it was closed down it was left empty but there were a lot of lovely old Victorian fittings, and these were stolen, chandeliers, a blue and white bathroom set, wood panelling. fish from the fishpond, and even oil left in the oil tank. Not personal property, only of the NHS, so nobody cared, I digress. Empty properties are a pain.

NickyJo64 Sun 03-Mar-19 09:25:09

It's a disgusting society we now live in, breaking into other people's homes & destroying their property, complete disrespect is everywhere now, kids are also being bred by these disrespectful foul creatures, memorial bench springs to mind. The future of the UK is one I'm very happy not to witness for too much longer, UK is rapidly declining & crimes are just increasing by the day - sad but true

rileydog Sun 03-Mar-19 09:20:20

Your local Council/Coumcillor may be able to help. They can serve notice on property owners to maintain properties to an acceptable standard and in some cases place a compulsory purchase order on them. Worth a try. Good luck.

GrandmainOz Sun 03-Mar-19 03:18:01

This is clearly worrying you a great deal. I agree with previous posters: return the keys with a note via registered post. That may even be enough to jolt the property owner into accepting the seriousness of the issue. If you make it clear that you will no longer be their "eyes on the ground " they may take action at last. Good luck

BradfordLass72 Sun 03-Mar-19 02:38:44

My first concern, were I in your situation, would be to get an alarm and camera system fitted to MY house.

I can't hazard a guess at the cost as I don't live in the UK but even if you have to pay by installments, it's a small price to pay for peace of mind flowers

Grammaretto Sat 02-Mar-19 14:58:54

Many house insurance policies have a clause excempting them from paying up if the property is left empty for even a short length if time. Hence the house sitting organisations sprouting.
I think it's usually because of flooding from burst pipes etc but it does seem sensible to not leave a house empty.
I hope your neighbour sees sense.

Luckygirl Sat 02-Mar-19 14:43:53

It is all the responsibility of the owner, to whom the keys should be returned forthwith, with a message to say that you are not prepared to continue with the danger of an empty property next door that is being vandalised.

If it continues report to local council.