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dragonfly46 Sat 12-Jan-19 22:17:27

An Australian magazine has published an article saying that Charles and Camilla are about to announce their divorce. Apparently they haven’t been seen together for sometime.
Speculation or not?

Elegran Mon 14-Jan-19 14:47:13

Of course, neither schizophrenia nor porphyria could have been diagnosed at the time, so any diagnosis now is retrospective, but a lot of notes were kept on symptoms and the progress of his illness and what treatments he received (most of them barbaric)

When the study of mental illness was the hot topic, schizophrenia was the most popular retrospective diagnosis, but later porphyria became the most preferred. George 111 had all the physical signs and symptoms as well as (later on) the mental ones - and he would not have imagined (for instance) dark red urine, that was observed and noted by his physicians.

Other people sharing his genes also showed some or all of the signs and symptoms.

GabriellaG54 Mon 14-Jan-19 14:20:04

Elegran
I bow to your superior information. Evidently, you have a working knowledge of those who suffer from schizophrenia and porphyria.
My mad bad. winkgrin

Jalima1108 Mon 14-Jan-19 13:17:30

I thought it was a known fact, Gabriella< that George 111 suffered from porphyria, not schizophrenia? Porphyria wasn't a diagnosis at the time, but all the reports of his symptoms tally,
Yes, that is what I understood too Elegran. I've never heard any mention of him having schizophrenia.

Porphyria sounds like an absolutely miserable condition to have.

silverlining48 Mon 14-Jan-19 12:08:20

Not saying this is true or not, I am not overly interested, but I remember many years ago being surprised when German friends said Princess Margaret was divorcing, and again some time later that Charles and Diana were splitting up too. It was all over their papers but not in ours. Europeans have always seemed to be more interested in the royal family than maybe we are.

Anniebach Mon 14-Jan-19 11:54:30

Prince William of Gloucester was diagnosed with Porphyria, first cousin to the queen

Elegran Mon 14-Jan-19 11:44:40

I thought it was a known fact, Gabriella< that George 111 suffered from porphyria, not schizophrenia? Porphyria wasn't a diagnosis at the time, but all the reports of his symptoms tally, and it is thought that several of his relations also inherited the disease, right up to the 20th Century (and that Mary Stewart/Queen of Scots may also have had it - she was related)

EllanVannin Mon 14-Jan-19 11:03:10

Margs it's terrible the way the media bashes the Royals just to get a story, albeit an untrue one, also knowing that the Royals can't " fight back ".

Margs Mon 14-Jan-19 10:57:52

Well, the papers here have been trying to manufacture some kind of fake feud supposedly between Kate and Meghan - I imagine the media reckons we're SO bored with the Brexit that we'll fall for any alternative hogwash!

EllanVannin Mon 14-Jan-19 10:19:19

" Perhaps having multiple user names and telling lies on a forum could be seen as being mad by some people ?"

What's that all about ??

Oldwoman70 Mon 14-Jan-19 09:53:18

"Perhaps having multiple user names and telling lies on a forum could be seen as being mad by some people?"

How do people manage to have multiple names? When I first joined GN my late husband also tried to join, using his email address, but was unable to do so - we assumed because we were both using the same computer and IP address.

holdingontometeeth Mon 14-Jan-19 09:24:45

Welcome to GN Lily65

Perhaps having multiple user names and telling lies on a forum could be seen as being mad by some people?

After such a short time I can only assume that you are referring to forums other than GN.
Or do you have some insider information? smile

Lily65 Mon 14-Jan-19 08:50:07

Perhaps having multiple user names and telling lies on a forum could be seen as being mad by some people?

Anniebach Mon 14-Jan-19 08:27:41

So because I have agoraphobia, which is definitely irational , I am mad ?

Lily65 Mon 14-Jan-19 08:27:24

Eloethan is trying to tell us it is completely absurd to suggest the people suffering from schizophrenia are likely to commit murder.
Thankfully few people refer to those who have mental health issues as mad.

GabriellaG54 Mon 14-Jan-19 01:44:37

My thoughts are that we should stop referring to King George lll as the mad king and re-title the film and play. It's a known fact that he suffered from schizophrenia which, in the 1700s, was not a diagnosis.
In any case madness, or rather, the word 'mad' is commonly used to describe a condition where the brain does not function in the usual manner as far a rationality goes, and irrationality is madness.
To object to a word in common use in favour of one which sounds more acceptable (but has the same meaning) is, to my mind, mad.
Like saying 'passed' instead of 'died'. One cloaking the reality, the other laying bare the bones. This is simply my view.

holdingontometeeth Mon 14-Jan-19 00:02:55

Eloethan As this Thread is about Charles and Camilla, are you trying to tell us something?

Eloethan Sun 13-Jan-19 23:49:41

Schizophrenia is a very frightening and distressing condition for both the sufferer and the people close to him/her.

I believe the vast majority of murders are committed by people who, at least as far as appearances are concerned, come across as "normal". Schizophrenics are far more likely to hurt or kill themselves than anybody else and to characterise them as homicidal maniacs is very cruel.

Jalima1108 Sun 13-Jan-19 23:07:08

We all need a bit of space now and again...or is that going to offend those who are joined at the hip?
Definitely won't offend me
thank goodness DH has his garage/workshop.

Anniebach Sun 13-Jan-19 22:00:31

With five grandchildren of her own I think the bolt hole is a good idea , it is a family home for her children

catwoman Sun 13-Jan-19 21:43:43

They were very much together at Charles's birthday party last month. Lovely couple. Great sense of humour.

GabriellaG54 Sun 13-Jan-19 20:39:09

merlotgran

A bit like a man cave eh?
We all need a bit of space now and again...or is that going to offend those who are joined at the hip? shockwinkgrin

merlotgran Sun 13-Jan-19 20:31:25

Sounds like a perfect arrangement to me. We have a mobile home in the garden. I've often felt like moving in there when DH gets under my feet.

Not quite Ray Mill House though. grin

GabriellaG54 Sun 13-Jan-19 20:24:05

I think that Cami and Chas are good for each other. A much better match than Diana who was inveigled into marriage with him.
Charles was told by Prince Philip to 'Get on with it' as he was knocking on, age wise.
C&C seem a contented couple and she has her own time with her AC and GC at Ray Mill House, the home she retained after her divorce from Andrew Parker-Bowles.
Camilla is known to spend much of her time there and, when official appointments are planned, will meet Charles at a given point and they continue to the venue together.
On overseas trips, she will often fly out a few days earlier to 'acclimatise'.
They are the reasons as to why she isn't with him day in day out.

sarahellenwhitney Sun 13-Jan-19 19:43:02

Barmeyoldbat Me too if like myself you need reminding what day it is confused

Barmeyoldbat Sun 13-Jan-19 18:14:49

I have forgotten what the post was about, we seem to have moved on to something else.