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dr who and the politically correct script writers

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petunia Mon 29-Oct-18 08:50:38

I’ve been a Dr Who fan since I was a little girl. I’ve hidden behind the sofa when the Daleks were on screen. I’ve had nightmares about Cybermen. I was unnerved by the Weeping Angels. I’ve loved each and every one of the incarnations of the Dr, particularly David Tennant and Christopher Eccleston. I was thrilled when it was announced that the new Dr would be female. About time too.
But oh dear, they are laying it on thick. Each week feels like a lecture-racism, the environment, sexism. I await transgenderism. While I accept that some political statements are bound to happen, it’s the clumsy way they are shoehorned into each episode. It’s almost as though the producers are standing by with a clip board and checklist.
It makes me want to keep a check list of my own to see how many isms’ can be piled into each episode.
By the way, I love the new female incarnation

GabriellaG Wed 31-Oct-18 18:31:34

oldbatty
I live in a 'village' outside Guildford. To see anyone of mixed race or other ethnicity would be unusual and one could fairly safely assume that they are a professional carer who does not live in the area. There are none working in the shops either.
I have broached the subject with friends but met with silence.
I was collecting for the poppy appeal this afternoon and saw none, nor did I last year or any year when collecting over several days in different locations, same area.

Nandalot Wed 31-Oct-18 17:21:37

Verys

Nandalot Wed 31-Oct-18 17:21:19

Just read that link from ‘Pink News’ . They claim the almost 2 per cent is ‘very, very. high,’ yet claim the percentage in the population is 1 percent. Not really enough to justify two Cerys!

lemongrove Wed 31-Oct-18 17:10:18

....and it’s not Royston Vasey! grin

lemongrove Wed 31-Oct-18 17:09:36

There are no black or Asian people or mixed race come to that where I live, you would have to go to the nearest city to find them.Trans or gay couples? Who knows?

Greyduster Wed 31-Oct-18 16:57:43

The comments from some who say they live in areas where there aren’t any dual heritage, black or ethnic, same sex couples or transgender people.... Where do they live, I found myself wondering? Royston Vasey perhaps?

oldbatty Wed 31-Oct-18 15:54:49

Are there no transgender Tories then?

petunia Wed 31-Oct-18 14:54:42

www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/07/01/bbc-417-trans-staff-survey-journey/

oldbatty Wed 31-Oct-18 14:30:37

Where is the survey that tells us about sexual orientation of those working in the BBC?

Where are the statistics that tell us about the amount of black/mixed race actors appearing in adverts is out of all proportion to the make up of the population?

Oh and while we're at it....Where is the nursery staffed entirely by burka wearers that terrify children?

And the school that bans Bah Bah black sheep?

Iam64 Wed 31-Oct-18 13:08:07

I've just caught up with this thread and I begin to realise, that I must live somewhere very different than many posters. The comments from some who say they live in areas where there aren't any dual heritage, black or ethic, same sex couples or transgender people had me feeling slightly other worldly. Where do they live, I found myself wondering.

As for the BBC being biased to the left and having a larger proportion of transgender staff than the poster feels is appropriate, I'd point to the number of comments on gransnet from people who could be thought of as 'left wing', who believe the BBC is increasingly right wing.

PECS do you want to come round and watch Dr Who with me? I haven't watched it since the children gave up on it years ago. The preponderance of accusations of a PC gone mad programme makes me feel I need to watch it, so I can comment on the programme, rather than this thread.

oldbatty Wed 31-Oct-18 12:17:42

Where can I access the survey please?

oldbatty Wed 31-Oct-18 12:06:43

Aren't we all mixed or mixes or whatever. How bloody stupid.

oldbatty Wed 31-Oct-18 12:05:26

Where I live, it would stand out like the proverbial sore thumb

Where I live it would look very odd if people of different ethnic backgrounds didn't feature on TV.

Lilyflower Wed 31-Oct-18 09:42:14

The BBC has turned into a propaganda machine for the left. Every programme, factual and otherwise churns out an ideology of how it believes we ought to think. I have long since given up listening to the once creditable 'Today' programme on Radio Four and am horrified that a recent survey found that 80% of the population gets their news from BBC TV channels.

petunia Wed 31-Oct-18 09:37:38

So many great responses here, lots of opinions.Many thanks for those responses. It has led me to consider the left wing bias at the BBC. Some years ago I was interviewed by a research company commissioned by the BBC to look at bias within the corporation. It was 20 years ago, maybe more. At that point the left wing bias was not so obvious. Today it punches you in the face.
In one sense it is fine. We need different points of view expressed. We need to know facts and figures and some of the BBC programmes are great at that. I’m thinking here of the fabulous David Attenborough programmes concerning the environment. But there are many times that the bias is hysterical and far far removed from the reality of everyone living a less sophisticated life north of Watford gap.
I can think of two examples. A past one.Looking back to the election coverage when the conservatives took over power. I watched the coverage which started with David Dimbleby at 10pm when the polls closed. We had had weeks and months of the BBC downplaying the conservative lead and showcasing labour. The opening statements were cautiously but confidently predicting a labour government. As the results came in, the look of astonishment and shock on the faces of the presenters was a picture. Much back tracking and horror that the electorate had not cooperated with the expected result; that is the result expected by the London elite and the BBC.
Another perfect example, for the future maybe,would be a recent survey at the BBC revealed that there was an unusually high percentage of transgender individuals employed at the BBC. One in 50 of the workforce. 417 apparently in one organisation. With such a high percentage of transgender individuals, it’s only a matter of time before the producers introduce more and more transgender characters and topics into everyday television. Is that good or bad. I don’t really know. For the individual out there who is confused, it must be great seeing transgender characters in dramas and soaps, just getting on with their lives. For others, there will be a sense of bewilderment as to why there are so many transgender characters when in real life they meet so few. Some may be thinking why every other programme is focusing on transgender when some of the important issues in their own lives are ignored.
But back to Dr Who. So far there has been much punching the audience in the face. Both blatant and subtle lecturing. It won’t stop me watching it though, but I will be there with my clipboard, counting!
However, the BBC is funded partly by our cash in the licence fee and partly through our taxes. Maybe we should be asking; do we want BBC programming to reflect our lives or change our lives.

mcem Wed 31-Oct-18 08:29:09

Wonder where GG 's exclusive backwater is?
Is this the same area where the only foreign accents/ languages belong to cleaners etc? Perhaps I am 'misremembering' an earlier post of GG.

sarahcyn Wed 31-Oct-18 07:36:59

Day6 has it right.
But there is a big difference between diversity in casting or role-creating and having a continual left-field slant.

PECS Wed 31-Oct-18 07:20:24

As a "mixes" I am going to have to watch the bloomin' programme now..to see what all the fuss is about!

NfkDumpling Wed 31-Oct-18 06:50:33

I wasn’t at all sure I’d like the new Doctor but I’m warming to her. Its not that she’s a woman, more her woolly indecisiveness, but she seems to be warming to being a woman nicely! I think the script writers are doing a good job of appealing to more ages. I took some of the political correctness as sarcasm because of the way it was presented.

Day6 Wed 31-Oct-18 01:28:16

Most of us are aware we live in a multicultural society GabriellaG and have no qualms about that or any sort of diversity. I am glad we live in a more equal, fairer, more enlightened UK. People are people. You may have a problem with people different in any way from you, but I don't.

What is being objected to is the way the BBC's (and Channel4s) OTT politically correct agenda is infiltrating scripts and dramas to the point where it is stilted, disproportionate and patronising.

We are being lectured, having to digest overtly politically correct messages and it is actually counter-productive and totally unnecessary. It's a turn off. Subtlety is not the forte of left wing producers or script-writers unfortunately.

GabriellaG Wed 31-Oct-18 01:06:08

Muffin
Mixed race/gender and ss relationships.

muffinthemoo Wed 31-Oct-18 00:47:06

What is “mixes or sameies” please?

GabriellaG Wed 31-Oct-18 00:22:16

I must live in a backwater, albeit a very exclusive backwater. There is no racial mix here.

GabriellaG Wed 31-Oct-18 00:17:36

*only blush

GabriellaG Wed 31-Oct-18 00:17:04

I'll never be pc, don't agree with mixes or sameies (my word) or anything other than the normal order as it was meant to be.
I do agree with the minority voice on here who say that some ads, programmes and companies seem determined to be as stupidly inclusive as possible. What other countries include someone of every racial background in their ads? Where I live, it would stand out like the proverbial sore thumb and I have mentioned it, onky to be met with a look and a wall of silence.