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Newquay Wed 26-Sept-18 02:23:24

Just watching the prog. I really find it quite distasteful-yes I know I have an off switch! The royal family is so cynical. They keep themselves to themselves when it suits. Now, when folks are openly talking about havingbhad enough of this spoiled family this film is put out. They really do have a nerve. . . and a very good PR team!

Elegran Tue 02-Oct-18 15:27:47

Those who rage that being ruled by a hereditary head of state is anachronistic usually have an anachronistic image of what a modern constitutional monarch actually does, coloured by some of the distinctly powerhungry rulers we have had in the past.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 02-Oct-18 15:19:57

Well put Elegran ???

Anniebach Tue 02-Oct-18 15:17:03

Rubbish to claim queenie rules, she does not.

Elegran Tue 02-Oct-18 15:11:50

Thing is, paddyann , they don't actually rule. They are figureheads with no influence on government policies, and their allotted task is to charm the representatives of other countries and to have the experiences of many years of meetings with previous Prime Ministers behind them to relate to current PMs and possibly impart some general (and non-party) advice. HM has met, worked with and formed personal impressions of PMs from Winston Churchill to Theresa May, and she reads up on the contents of her red boxes. She has more experience of the ins and outs of goernment than any sitting MP.

Presidents in the US mould do expect to influence the government of the day. They are strongly mono-party, becaus they owe their position to being voted in on a party ticket, and some are hell-bent on destroying the achievements of their predecessor.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 02-Oct-18 14:53:58

oh dear we could end up with a UK version of Trump.

paddyann Tue 02-Oct-18 13:59:32

Change is a good thing surelyLovetopaint the world cant and shouldn't be stagnant.Moving away from this over privileged,over entitled, ever growing brood of benefits claimants would only be good for us.Let someone who has WORKED their way up the ladder have the top job,if they dont do it to our satisfaction we vote them out and someone else in.Fairer all round and much much less expensive .I dont understand people who think a hereditary right to rule is the way forward in the 21st century ,its a medieval concept welll past its selll by date .

henetha Tue 02-Oct-18 10:36:02

I agree with Lovetopaint037.

Lovetopaint037 Tue 02-Oct-18 09:11:11

I thought the programme was interesting. I think the immediate Royals are doing their best in roles which are so scrutinised that it must be suffocating at times. Yes, Megan played with her hair and uttered “amazing” a little too often but they were signs of nerves rather than anything else. I for one welcome the continued continuity that the Royals bring to an ever too fast changing world. They contribute to our prestige, support business, charities and tourist revenue. Beneath all the pomp there are normal human beings playing roles which I don’t think many of us would enjoy so much as you think.

annep Fri 28-Sept-18 18:06:16

You don't really need me to answer your question Mapleleaf.

Anniebach Fri 28-Sept-18 16:27:45

Queenie owns two properties both willed to her.

Mapleleaf Fri 28-Sept-18 16:24:59

No, annep, she probably hasn't given one of her properties to the homeless, and why should she? But, as I said previously, she could well be helping in other ways, just not publicising the fact, (and you can bet your bottom dollar that she would be criticised by some if she did publicise).

OldMeg Fri 28-Sept-18 16:16:16

Had to laugh at Caitlin Moran today. Some ‘royal’ or other who is 50th in line has got engaged. She was speechless, and suggested the RF limit their succession to the first 10 in line and if they all died off then they were obviously too unlucky to rule so the next head of state should be elected by phone vote!

annep Fri 28-Sept-18 16:08:31

If they weren't the RF that would save on security. Having the RF is in a word wrong.

Anniebach Fri 28-Sept-18 13:29:08

I agree it’s best they live in K.P. Windsor and St.James , saves on security. William doesn’t have a country estate, he has property in queenie’s privately owned Sandringham, again saves on security

merlotgran Fri 28-Sept-18 13:23:18

There's a lot of sense in royal offspring living in properties that already exist. Security and maintenance for a start. I did raise my eyebrows at the cost of renovating William and Kate's apartment in KP and Harry and Meghan are apparently going to move into the one vacated by the Gloucesters after extensive renovations. Security must surely be more cost effective with them all in the same place though.

Eugenie and whatever his name is are living in one of the KP 'cottages' so he's done alright. Who will provide the country pad, I wonder?

Elegran Fri 28-Sept-18 12:49:26

There are Middle Eastern speculators who built whole blocks in London as investments, which still stand empty - how many of those have been given to the homeless?

Anniebach Fri 28-Sept-18 12:32:47

She has no palaces to give away.

Elegran Fri 28-Sept-18 12:28:23

Posted too soon.

Elegran Fri 28-Sept-18 12:28:03

But has she given money and/or support to help provide places of their own? She doesn't publicise her giving, doers that automatically mean it doesn't exist, or just that she isn't saying?

If she did give a palace to the homeless, would they be grateful to have to heat it and keep it maintained?

Elegran Fri 28-Sept-18 12:26:46

But has she given money and/or support to help provide places of their own? She doesn't publicise her giving, doers that automatically mean it doesn't exist, or just that she isn't saying?

annep Fri 28-Sept-18 11:49:42

Mapleleaf I do know she hasn't given one of her palaces to the homeless!

Mapleleaf Fri 28-Sept-18 10:16:05

Have you had an in depth conversation with HM to know that "the homeless and the poor are so far beneath her in her perception she doesn't know they exist", paddyann?
None of us know what she does behind the scenes, or what she thinks about things going on in the world.

annep Fri 28-Sept-18 05:27:08

Yes it does, and is Merlotgran.?.

merlotgran Thu 27-Sept-18 18:16:30

Our daughter lives in a bungalow on our estate.

Ooooh . Doesn't that sound grand? grin

Anniebach Thu 27-Sept-18 17:27:03

Was I the poster condemned as common/ snobbish ?