Those royals wasting money again

It's curious that anyone who doesn't join the RF knocking group is referred to as fawning, or 'worshipping at their feet'. Nope, not at all so far as I'm concerned and I haven't seen other posters doing that.
Me neither Iam64 - and I am 100% certain that if we sent the RF into retirement and had an elected Head of State, it would cost twice as much and the electorate would be grumbling even more.

There are concerns about the costs of security surrounding the RF and the royal wedding security costs - security was there to protect the public too.
When The Donald comes on his State Visit - I suppose there will be no grumbles about the security costs for that because he is an elected Head of State, therefore that's all OK.

I think they do a difficult and probably, at times, boring job and there must be a demand for their presence at events of all kinds, otherwise royals such as Edward, Anne etc would not be so busy.

As for 'costing the taxpayer so much' - there is a budget, decided by Parliament, and they have to work within that. Expensive flights would have to come out of that budget which means less money in the pot for another royal duty.
It is a finite, not limitless, amount

I wasn’t accusing you Gillybob I just felt others were weighing in and the turn the thread has taken seemed in poor taste.
We can all agree to differ on the RF (and clearly do!) and there will be many shades of opinion. No problem with that.
I’m out.

I’m sorry to be coming back to this thread when I thought it had been put to bed . Of course somone couldn’t resist defining the word “loathsome” just to stir the pot, but I feel like you are being very one sided and unfair to MaryEliza, Maw . I agree Annies faith is no-ones business but her own, as is my lack of it . Maybe if you read the last few pages of this thread you will see that it takes two sides to make an argument. Annie and I have different views . I have NEVER questioned or citisized Annie’s faith and I know she’s had one hell of a horrible year I can’t begin to even imagine how she has got through. Who are you to accuse anyone of deriding that faith?

Lay off the insults please maryEliza not necessary and irrelevant.
And frankly, my dear.... (complete the quotation for yourself.)

MB really? Not that you’d ever partake in such behavioir would you? Oh the irony.

Isn’t this thread getting out of hand/rather personal?
Anniebach’s faith is nobody’s business but her own and if it has sustained her through the tragedy of this last year, who is to deride it?
Defining loathing/hatred etc just seems like nitpicking and we all know it is possible to love the person but hate the deed.
If the RF really warrants further discussion so be it but we seem to be a long way away from that topic.

Feeling repugnance for is not hate, i can consider actions by a person to be repugnant but doesn’t mean I hate her / him.

feel intense dislike or disgust for.
"she loathed him on sight"
synonyms: hate · detest · abhor · despise · abominate · dislike greatly · execrate · have a strong aversion to · feel repugnance towards · not be able to bear · not be able to stand · shrink from

Charles and Camilla are in N.I. Today

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As my husband often says, when we are at loggerheads - "My fault, your mistake." It has such a nice feel about it, that it works every time.

My grandad had a habit of upsetting my grandma ( often for the most trivial of reasons) . I hated them falling out so I used to make my grandad apologise.

His way around it was to say “ Bridget , darling , I’m sorry if your sorry “

Talk about red rag to a bull

Agree to disagree, please.

Whatever you say Annie

Pretty sure is a guess gilly, just a guess based on your loathing of queenie. My guess is she does donate to charities through a third person, if it was publicised you would be on the attack because of her choice of charities and some charities would be hurt , understandably, if they were not included .

Suppose queenie gave to Battersea dogs home but not to Shelter, dog lovers may be pleased, others angry she put dogs before the homeless.

Oh I have studied the scriptures Annie and have good knowledge of religion particularly the Church of England. I actually like some of the language once used. I just reject the concept of blood sacrifice. It does amuse me that the only defence someone can use is 'You are an atheist, so you can't criticise me".

Knowing how they court good publicity I’m pretty sure Annie

I find some people loathsome too and like you Annie it doesn’t mean I hate them. I’ve said it before ... I don’t hate anyone.

I did hate someone once . But he’s long gone .

You are sure gilly? 100% sure you know this or a guess ?

For the record gilly no one who uses scripture as a weapon is on my side and I would not want them to be.

For me , loathe is to dislike intensely , I find some people loathsome, this does not mean in any way I hate them

Considering how often the rf appear in the press and on TV I am sure their publicity machine would make us well aware of anything substantial they gave to charity .

I have never told anyone ever, how to conduct their lives Annie and boy am I aware of my faults .

For the record I think trisher is on your side Annie but quoting from scriptures is wasted on me I have never studied them .

Trisher, another atheist who uses scripture as a weapon. I am aware of my faults.

Yes Gilly you said she wears a hat, what has a hat to do with her faith?

When you know if she gives or doesn’t give help to those in need, when you know what she asks or what she gives to and for her God then speak out, but you never will so I think you are wrong to judge her or anyone’s faith.

And yes Christians are told constantly by atheists how to conduct their lives .

The priest you spoke to was so wrong to speak of the faith or lack of faith in other members of the congregation because he didn’t know. Only one priest knows how strong or weak my faith is , he knows through my confessions which are known to no one else.

If someone describes another person as "loathsome" and later states they are incapable of hate, who do they imagine is doing the loathing? It must be other people. I'm not religious but nor do I ignore my own faults and attribute feelings to other people And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?