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M0nica Wed 14-Mar-18 13:23:18

Someone from the NT in Jersey has expressed concern about the number of memorial benches found at many beauty spots and suggests the number could be limited by only allowing them to be there for a given number of years.

I can only whole-heartedly support this measure. About 5 years ago we went to Whitby, staying in a hotel on the headland opposite the ruined abbey. The view from the headland to the abbey is superb. There was a broad sweep of grass around the headland in front of the hotel and as DH and I wandered along it I counted 67 memorial benches before I freaked out and insisted we went back to the road, crossed it and walked on the pavement as far from the benches as possible. I counted 67, but there were a lot more.

All the benches were so close together, to walk on the headland meant threading between the benches each with their little brass plaque saying that John, or Iris or Fred or Violet who died.... loved this view.

It is left me with a horror of these benches. I can just cope with them, if the bench is where a bench would be anyway, in an alcove in a garden for example, one or two at a popular beauty spot, but anything much more and I start shuddering.

I can see the point of benches, but not the need to mark them with brass plaques. The chances that anyone seeing the plaque to Mildred, or Reg or Joy, will know who they are, are remote and anyone else seeing them, especially in profusion won't care.

When DFdied we made a donation to a new quiet garden at the hospital. We chose a table and when asked whether we wanted a plaque on it DS and I were emphatic that we didn.t - and that was before my stay at Whitby.

Jalima1108 Mon 19-Mar-18 10:04:24

This is a secure site if anyone is interested. lemongrove the Giant's seat is no more, now charcoal for local artists!

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-bristol-34585034/forest-of-dean-sculpture-the-giant-s-chair-demolished

It's being replaced by a huge pair of hands I think.

Chewbacca Sun 18-Mar-18 21:34:54

Couldn't resist a look, just to see if my security was up to the challenge too!
What a pity it's gone. It would be nice if they did another; to replace it. Even giants need to sit down sometimes. wink

lemongrove Sun 18-Mar-18 21:28:41

That’s excellent Alexa and good on Ilford, I used to work and live there.

lemongrove Sun 18-Mar-18 21:26:47

I just went on the site Jalima ( my security didn’t tell me not to, shame, as I like a challenge) grin
Wow, the giant’s chair, amazing it has been there for 29 years.My DGC would love that.

durhamjen Sun 18-Mar-18 20:25:26

Jalima, my security told me not to go on that site.

durhamjen Sun 18-Mar-18 20:24:22

Thank heavens for that Alexa.
4 rough sleepers died there already this year. That must be more than anywhere else.

Alexa Sun 18-Mar-18 19:10:39

www.theguardian.com/society/2018/mar/17/ilford-ms-store-to-help-build-pop-up-hostel-for-rough-sleepers

Jalima1108 Sun 18-Mar-18 18:41:23

www.forestofdean-sculpture.org.uk/farewell-to-the-giants-chair

Alexa Sun 18-Mar-18 18:39:59

Durhamjen wrote:

"I can see a difference between a public place and a shop."

Yes, but shop staff are people too. One hero M and S manager lately organised the placing of containers on some land where homeless people were sleeping , for the use of the rough sleepers, and other institutions joined in the initiative.
Sometimes blurring boundaries is good.

Jalima1108 Sun 18-Mar-18 17:42:27

Why did you introduce the idea of not being able to sit down in Debenhams into this thread?

Well, I think the idea is that the bench or chair is situated somewhere where you enjoyed the view.
Personally, I prefer a view of the sea to Debenhams lemongrove

OldMeg There used to be a handy chair in the Forest of Dean but it's gone now:
https://www.forestofdean-sculpture.org.uk/farewell-to-the-giants-chair/

Jalima1108 Sun 18-Mar-18 17:33:07

I am grateful for a bench, a comfy chair anywhere these days.
We went to a large shop the other day and I had to hang around and wait ages whilst DH fetched the car from the garage where it had been for its MOT. No seats inside or outside but there were garden chairs on display in the foyer with notices saying 'please do not sit on the chairs as we cannot guarantee their safety' (why buy one, then?, I thought.)
A little boy sat down in one and said 'its OK, I've been sitting here and no-one has come and told me off yet' so I sat with him. We had a lovely chat about football.

lemongrove Sun 18-Mar-18 16:59:40

grin

Chewbacca Sun 18-Mar-18 16:53:00

Well, there is a little train, and a chair lift, up the Great Orme lemon and the passengers cheerfully wave to you as you're staggering up on foot. I don't have the energy to raise my arm to wave back! On reflection, I'd like to forgo the benches on the way up and I'll choose a sedan chair instead!

lemongrove Sun 18-Mar-18 16:46:55

I am very impressed by the climbing prowess of some posters.When in our twenties, on a walking holiday in Switzerland we climbed up what ( probably) the Swiss would term a hillgrin called the Hardar Kulme ( can’t remember the spelling).What a slog! Anyway, we did it and arrived puffed out at the top to find tourists sitting calmy eating chocolate cake and slurping coffee, many of them really old ( as in Really old). The mystery was solved when we found the little train on the other side, taking people up and down.Could have used a bench or two there!

Esspee Sun 18-Mar-18 16:08:30

@OldMeg. I completely understand that you visit the bench to be close to your loved one on anniversaries but it is unacceptable to leave flowers or items other than a small simple plaque, assuming the bench is in a public place. The bench has been allowed on the assumption that it is for the use of all. Not to be turned into a memorial. There are places for memorials, cemeteries and crematoria. Benches are for the general public to sit on.

OldMeg Sun 18-Mar-18 16:03:34

SpanielNanny I agree.

MissAdventure Sun 18-Mar-18 15:57:57

Oops! Wrong thread!

MissAdventure Sun 18-Mar-18 15:57:13

Childish, I know, but the doctor overseeing the trial in the link. His name made me smile.. blush

SpanielNanny Sun 18-Mar-18 15:53:51

Yes CHEWBACCA. I didn’t want to appear greedy, but I would have also been very grateful for oxygen cylinders at several points on my way up scarfell!

Chewbacca Sun 18-Mar-18 15:47:57

A couple of benches, memorial or otherwise, on the way up the Great Orme would be good too. And an oxygen cylinder at the top would be most welcome! grin

MissAdventure Sun 18-Mar-18 15:46:23

I like a nice sit down wherever I go.. smile
The benches here are very reasonably priced. Far less than I thought it would cost, and they're kept in pristine order.

SpanielNanny Sun 18-Mar-18 15:43:57

In fairness OLDMEG, as somebody who has climbed Scarfell Pike on a couple of occasions, one or two benches on the way up would have been a delightful surprise grinwink

durhamjen Sun 18-Mar-18 15:33:38

If Debenhams is a public space, why does the public not benefit from the profits?

durhamjen Sun 18-Mar-18 15:16:34

Well, in that case, you will not get to sit down in Debenhams, will you, lemon?
I think you are missing the point of memorials.
Why did you introduce the idea of not being able to sit down in Debenhams into this thread?

Chewbacca Sun 18-Mar-18 15:11:42

I agree with you MissA, hmm indeed.