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MissAdventure Sun 21-Jan-18 15:03:47

I wasn't sure what forum to put this on, I suppose it could be under religion, but anyway.
Do you believe mediums to be misguided, or to have any basis of truth in their 'readings'?
Do you think they prey on others' misery, or are onto a lucrative money spinner?
Have you seen one, and if you did, what conclusion did it leave you with? Lots of questions! smile

WilmaKnickersfit Mon 22-Jan-18 19:05:01

This is what I sort of believe, but it will be a bit daft sounding to most people. I have thought this since coming across Philip Pullman's Dark Matters trilogy and watching film The Golden Compass . Bear with me as it gets a bit deep.

In Physics basically everything in the universe is made up of particles, but particle is a general term for something that varies massively to form the world around us and beyond. Humans are made from particles and are sentient beings, and particles make this possible. Our consciousness exists because of the relationship between particles.

So my thoughts are that when we die, no matter what happens to our bodies, whether we're cremated or buried in the ground or at sea, etc., our particles are broken down and separate. I think it's possible that particles from our existence can be sensed by some people and those particles retain something of the whole being. This could also be described as a soul,spiritual and/or religious.

I know this is a subject discussed by philosophers for thousands of years, but I think science is answering some of the questions and will continue to do so.

123flump Mon 22-Jan-18 18:19:50

I went to a clairvoyant with a crowd from work. She told me someone close to me was getting married within the year, I said yes close friend and I was going to be a bridesmaid. She said I wasn't going to be a bridesmaid and the wedding would happen overseas. I said no it was all booked in this country and I was going to be bridesmaid.

Couple of months later friends boyfriend got called up for national service in his country and my friend flew out and married him. So I didn't get to be bridesmaid and the wedding didn't happen here. I have no clue how she worked it all out.

lovebeigecardigans1955 Mon 22-Jan-18 15:19:23

Depends. No doubt there are awful charlatons who prey on the vulnerable but there are good ones too.
This is my experience:
One of DH's workmates went to a good 'un in Newark. She held his watch, rubbed it and said , "Please take your car to the garage, I know nothing about cars but I'm urging you to do so. You will, won't you? I've got a bad feeling."
He thought to himself 'What a load of rubbish' but went anyway (he didn't say to the mechanic that a medium told him to come as he didn't want to look daft.
Later on he got a phone call from the garage.
"I'm so glad you brought the car in, the brake cable was almost sheared right through and could've failed at any time - you were driving a death trap."
As you can imagine, the hairs on the back of his neck stood out. He recommended her to us. We went twice and she was fabulous - told us things which she couldn't possibly have known - about our departed parents and suchlike. It was uncanny, so yes I believe in this sort of thing - as long as you go to a good'un.

KazzaK Mon 22-Jan-18 15:18:33

I have a very good friend who is psychic. She is an extremely kind, level headed person. Does not take any money for readings so no financial gain. It’s something she has been able to do since childhood so she just accepts it as a gift that she has. Some of my family have met with her and she has told them things she couldn’t possibly have known. My husband was completely cynical about all this (something my friend took all in good part) until something happened to him while he was alone working in her house which changed his mind completely. So yes, while I agree there are people out there who are con artists, there are people who are genuine.

Barmeyoldbat Mon 22-Jan-18 15:08:41

I had a reading many years ago and she was able to tell me how many children I had and also the medical problems my daughter had. She predicted I would marry but not the person I was seeing who had a name beginning with R as my future husbands name began with M. Two years later I took my friends to see her as she believed she had brain tumour and nothing could convince her she didn’t. She came away knowing that she didn’t have one and has never had a bad headache again.. just a load of nonsense, maybe, but there again you just never know.

Witzend Mon 22-Jan-18 14:34:35

I tend to the sceptical, but have known a few extraordinary things happen to others, who are normally equally sceptical.

A niece had a dog that refused absolutely to set a paw over the threshold of a certain, older part of their house. None of the family had sensed anything at all. Niece happened to have a neighbour who was said to have the 'gift'. Neighbour came (unpaid) , apparently sussed out who was still hanging around (and why), asked him to go, and he evidently went, since right afterwards the dog was perfectly happy to go into that part of the house.
If dogs can imagine such things, I have to say it's news to me.

Intrigued by this, normally sceptical niece gave the same neighbour a ring that had been recently left to her by an elderly great aunt who'd lived hundreds of miles away. The things she was told about the great aunt, which she could not possibly have known, were quite extraordinary, and I have to say, sent shivers up the back of my neck when I was told of them.

MissAdventure Mon 22-Jan-18 14:18:28

That's the thing isn't it? Telling people things holds a huge responsibility. I do know of someone who was told (years after the loss of her daughter by suicide) that she hadn't jumped, there had been a scuffle with someone else, and she fell.

Anniebach Mon 22-Jan-18 14:09:12

I would be devasted if I was told my child was sorry she had taken her life and now realised she could have got through the problems, too damn late to comfort me.

Morgana Mon 22-Jan-18 14:03:01

I went to a medium after my father died. He told me things he could not have guessed. I found it very reassuring. But I have been to others who have been a waste of money. I do believe that some people have the gift of sight.

paddyann Mon 22-Jan-18 12:49:07

I won a sitting with Princess Di's medium,Sally something .I was going through quite a bad patch focussing on lost babies and feeling guilty that it was my faultI'd lost them( it wasn't I know that) so I entered a competition and won.I couldn't pluck up the courage to go ..in case she told me what I them already believed .I have a friend whose son inlaw tragically committed suicide and she saw her at a large venue .She was picked out of the audience and told details no one else knew about how he was found and it gave her and her D a lot od comfort when he said he was sorry he'd done it and knew he could have got through the problem that caused him to want to die

Anniebach Mon 22-Jan-18 09:55:29

Yes MisAdventure we need the same thing x

MissAdventure Mon 22-Jan-18 09:30:36

I'm tempted too, Annie, despite wasting money months back. I suppose we know why its on our minds..

Anniebach Mon 22-Jan-18 09:23:00

First time ever I am tempted , this really troubles me , my faith tells me it's wrong

Jane10 Mon 22-Jan-18 09:18:28

I've got an open mind around this subject. So many well intentioned fakes but also some amazing evidence of accurate mediums. I'd actually not want to go to one for fear of what I might hear. Doris Stokes' books are worth a read.

Faye Mon 22-Jan-18 05:49:45

In 2015 I met a woman who told me about a place that had a meditation group. I was interested and went along, I was surprised to find they also taught how to do psychic and tarot readings, psychometry etc. I found most people had some ability even though they had never done this before. On the first night after the meditation we sat in groups of six and each person attempted to do a reading for someone in the group. I concentrated very hard and it seemed to me to be looking through a tiny keyhole and I could see inside an old train and heard the words going on a journey. The woman said she was in fact going on two journeys in the near future and one involved a train trip. The next woman read for a younger woman and we all concentrated too. While I was trying hard to concentrate I could hear a frantic voice in my head (I have never heard a spoken voice in my head before this night only thoughts). Anyway I was trying to concentrate and kept trying to push this voice away. It was a man and he kept repeating “tell her Berts okay, tell her Berts okay, tell her Berts okay..... after the woman who was doing the reading had finished I asked the woman who was having the reading if I could tell her what I had gotten. I asked her if she knew a Bert and she said when she was about 18 she used to catch the train everyday and often she would be caught in the rain. An old man used to drive past each day and park at the railway station. One day he asked her if she would like a lift to the station. She said his name was Bert and they became friends and he died 26 years ago.

Each week we did something different, one time we all put jewellery in a box in our way in. After the meditation the box was handed around and we chose a piece of jewellery. I had a ring and concentrated and could see a woman’s hand wearing a ring, then I saw Felix the cat and it morphed into a black cat. Next I saw Lucille Ball and she morphed into an older woman (89/90s) with faded blonde/grey hair in the style that Lucille Ball used to wear with curls at the front and her hair smoothed to a bun at the back. I said what I saw and the woman whose ring it was thanked me and said I had described her late mother and the ring was hers.

I think meditation is the key and I believe it’s our sub conscience and not angels or guides. People often know something is going to happen. I often get small scenarios of things and shortly after it happens but never thought I could hold someone’s hand or their jewellery and pick things up about them. I never got more than a few things each time but it was fun.

WilmaKnickersfit Mon 22-Jan-18 01:13:59

I keep an open mind because who knows what science will discover in the future?

My friend lost her brother and for a couple of years after his death she would drive his widow to see different mediums. The SiL was convinced that it was possible to contact her husband. I remember one time she was given a cassette tape with a recording of the session and my friend and I listened to it, but given that I can't remember anything about it, it couldn't have been much good!

Personally I wouldn't go to see someone because I would probably dwell too much on what the person said and it's not cheap either.

There's something distasteful about charging for a reading.

trueblue22 Mon 22-Jan-18 00:52:25

I saw a medium 2 months after my DH suddenly died last year. This medium teaches mediumship at the London Psychic School

He 'knew' how long ago my DH had passed, that I had 2 children and their gender, my father's name and occupation, the town where I was born and described my late DH very accurately.

There was no way he could have known any of these facts, either online or from cold reading ( I never have him any clues)

I think there are many charlatans out there but I have heard many genuine ones. I've had too much validation not to believe in the spirit world. And I'm a pretty down to earth sort of woman.

judypark Sun 21-Jan-18 23:22:42

Mediumship is different to clairvoyance. Clairvoyancy is a claim to perceiving future events as is fortune telling that I associate with a Madame Zorro with hooped earrings in a veiled seaside booth.

Nelliemoser Sun 21-Jan-18 22:40:10

I would be interested in going to a meeting but I am sure there is no real sense in it.

Springychicken said

She told me my husband must see about his bad back or he would spend a long time in bed . She was spot on, he complained about back ache from the time we met and the doctor was hopeless at helping him.
Well I count that as probably stating the bleeding obvious, which is also how mediums work.

Nanawind said ...,
Not me but my mother, her sister and 3 cousins had a reading a few years ago. Everyone had a private reading then the youngest cousin went in and the medium told her quite forcibly to get out in fact she grabbed her arm and pushed her outside.

2 months later this cousin caused a traffic accident driving to fast where she and 2 young lads died. Still don't know whether to believe in mediums or not.

There is no logical connection between these comments of the medium and what happened later on. If you just half believe in this you will probably see something in such a comment.

Coincidence and psychology is part of this. Tell someone to be careful of "whatever" and when you do happen to have a mishap you will probably automatically recall what was said and make the connection.
The medium has, by what they have said, has suggested to you that you might which every one "might."

MissAdventure Sun 21-Jan-18 22:08:40

Some people seem to find the most flimsy evidence as proof, I think. A lot of it is very generic 'one size fits all' statements.
I'm getting a grey haired lady, and who's Mary? Also, I'm being told to tell you March? April? Yes, that's right, I knew it was in the spring sometime..

grannysyb Sun 21-Jan-18 21:52:45

I remember seeing a programme many years ago about mediums, they were all rubbish bar one, a barber from Scotland who was amazing. I think there are a lot who are charlatans but I think there are one or two with a gift

SpringyChicken Sun 21-Jan-18 21:27:23

A work colleague and I went to a fortune teller for a reading - we were both in our early twenties and recently married. She told me my husband must see about his bad back or he would spend a long time in bed . She was spot on, he complained about back ache from the time we met and the doctor was hopeless at helping him. When I told him what the fortune teller said, despite being sceptical, he made an appointment with a chiropractor who advised he needed treatment but couldn't say how many visits would be needed. Despite thinking this could be a method of making money at our expense, he went ahead with it and after six visits, his back was fine. The chiropractor said he might need to come back infrequently for a top up. He needed to go back only once.
My colleague was told that her marriage wasn't going at all well (true), both of us were told things she couldn't have guessed.

We later told a much older colleague what we'd done and she said she'd never go to a clairvoyant after her experience. She went with a group of friends. To one girl, said she couldn't see anything for herand the next day, the girl died in an accident. Ooer.

MissAdventure Sun 21-Jan-18 19:36:12

I felt quite offended by the time I came out. She said my dad was nice when he was down the pub and a tyrant at home - not true. He didn't go to the pub and I never heard him raise his voice. My mum appeared with a jack Russel in tow. (She didn't particularly like animals, and would never have had a dog) She also, apparently loved bingo, and was urging me to get out and have a drink and let my hair down. That would be the last thing my mum would ever say!

MissAdventure Sun 21-Jan-18 19:26:36

I went to one a few months ago, who has a very good reputation, and weeks to wait for an appointment. I have to say, I thought she was rubbish.
It got embarrassing in the end. I felt she saw a single woman in her 50s, and started saying how I like to go out 'with the girls'. Nope - I can't stand that kind of night out and never have enjoyed them.
Next was "ooh, that's right, but you do like a drink though, don't you? You sometimes go a bit over the top with it"
No, I'm tee total and have been for years. I can't stand drink or drinkers, I said.
So next was "what is it about you and men?"
What do you mean?
"You can't half pick 'em, you've had some bad ones"
No, I'm still friendly with them all, and they are all decent men.
"Oh, well I hope you've found it useful, that'll be £45 please."

Nanawind Sun 21-Jan-18 19:17:34

Not me but my mother, her sister and 3 cousins had a reading a few years ago. Everyone had a private reading then the youngest cousin went in and the medium told her quite forceble to get out in fact she grabbed her arm and pushed her outside.
2 months later this cousin caused a traffic accident driving to fast where she and 2 young lads died.
Still don't know whether to believe in mediums or not. Never been to one myself.