Jesus replaced with a Gregg's sausage roll.

I think it was Morrisons who put a loaf of bread across the angel of the north at Easter.

Still on top form Eleothan

Anniebach I don't lump together all "religious people" as if they all think and do the same. That is obviously ridiculous - as is demonstrated on here and in society in general. Religious people do not all think the same, have the same opinions or behave in the same way. You keep referring to "the atheists" as if all who do not have a religious faith are replicas of each other and can be lumped together. Just as there are religious people who have widely differing views on a variety of issues, so there are atheists.

You said earlier in the thread that you have never been rude about atheists but many of your comments relating to atheists are, I think, unpleasant - "Here come more atheists who worship a god in a vest" (whatever that means - I guess it's not complimentary).

That the crusades are brought up as an example of the atheists claims that Christianity is brutal is guaranteed

I thought someone would bring up the Crusades!! After all they were only over 1,000 years ago!

I have just started on my 3rd glass of wine so perhaps I shouldn't post any more

God Bless everyone

Sorry .Jalima, I thought you were replying to my post about a loaf of bread on the cross,I am rather tired, been here for hours ,can't concentrate on tv or radio.

How interesting Rosina, you put what happened in the crusades above Christs teachings, his agonising death on the cross , his resurrection and ascension, for me his deeds and words are what matters not what man chooses to do in his name

Oh, not on the cross, I agree Annie!
And probably not used as publicity by a commercial baker's - or even worse as a joke.

I meant that Jesus himself said about bread: 'eat this in remembrance of me'.

Maryeliza organised religion has a great deal to answer for, so much in the way of cruelty, bigotry, and completely the opposite of what Jesus taught. I can never get my head round 'mixed marriage' in Ireland. What?? And as for the Crusades - 'You will take on the religion of the Prince of Peace or my army will slash you to ribbons.' Wonderful. That is why I don't go to church and take a most jaundiced view of organised religion - it just isn't what its all about, any more than Muslim fanatics are demonstrating a true representation of their teachings. There always seem to be maniacs and the warped and spiteful who crawl out of the woodwork and claim that their actions are due to their deep faith.

There are a lot of flaky.individuals in this world. No doubt some of them are Christian, some Muslim, some Hindu, some Buddhist - some ———- fill in religion to suit.
I doubt if their flakiness is made any worse by their faith, but who knows?
I’m agnostic, and about as flaky as they come!

I doubt many would think a cartoon of queenie crowning with the arch bish anointing her with ketchup anusing, well some republicans would I suppose.

Can't agree Jalima, the cross is the centre of the Christian faith , to mock his broken body would cause much pain to many. Who would want to replace a bleeding, broken body with anything as a joke or to get publicity,it would take a very sick mind.

There must be a line which denotes what is funny and what is offensive, and it is a very careful balance which side the remark/picture etc will fall.

I think that some Catholics go by the maxim: "What Would Jesus Do?"
Perhaps we could ask "What would Jesus Think of This"

bearing in mind that we are 2017 years (or thereabouts) further on in time!

I must admit that I found the cartoon depicting one of the Magi turning up with a bottle of ketchup instead of myrrh, hilariously funny.

, I think a loaf of bread would not cause so much consternation, as Christ himself said 'Eat this in remembrance of me'.

As another poster pointed out, Jesus was a Jew and so using a pork sausage is doubly offensive - or, if people dislike the word 'offensive', perhaps cocking a snook.

Perhaps we should be thankful that Greggs are managing to bake and sell bread in some areas (although not here ).

It doesn't matter what day he was born, all that matters is he was born and the 25th December means to me a day when all Christians are rejoicing this together
They may as well choose that day as any other - it may have been convenient but if no-one knew for sure then why not 25th December when people were used to celebrating in ancient times? Pragmatism in action.

Anyway, Easter is the most important festival in the Christian calendar.

Not true, Jalima. They sell bread where there is enough demand for it.
I didn't realise that. There was a demand for it here and people are most disgruntled that they no longer sell it.

Yes vulgar sums it up

Ha ha Trisher!

Careful grumpa we'll be getting into the transubstantiation argument and that'll really cause bother!

Vegans are not food freaks,

It was offensive to put a sausage roll in the crib. It is bad enough that Christmas is so commercialized. A crib is usually a reminder of why we have the festival and the story that goes with it. I thought sticking a sausage roll in the crib was the last straw in vulgar, insensitive marketing.

I ate a Greggs sausage roll a couple of months ago, but I much prefer their cheese pasties and had one last week interestingly only 305 calories, better than a ham, cheese and pickle sandwich at over 500. Check it here. www.myfitnesspal.com/nutrition-facts-calories/greggs/7
So ya boo to all those holier than thou food freaks!

Not a loaf of bread, no substitute for the Christ Child, suppose come Easter some firm will stick a loaf of bread to the cross to replace his broken body

This thread has gone off in many directions, and I am no longer sure, if I ever was, if the objection is to the act of substitution, the identity of the substitutor, or the nature of the,substitute. But suppose it had not been a sausage roll, but a loaf of bread, a symbolic representation of the Saviour's body as consumed at holy communion?

At which point atheist Grumppa discreetly withdraws.