Jesus replaced with a Gregg's sausage roll.

CariGransnet

I think ab was replying to Cari

Oh sorry, has it?
For obvious reasons I have not been “keeping up” but for what it is worth I was trying to stand up for those Christians who do find themselves sneered at, patronised or ridiculed by the media and others.
I am sorry if this was not clear.

No different to making a comment, and it has been posted already by a poster

Just on the subject of tolerance and respect
I would like you all to bear this in mind.
It says it all.

GracesGran I find your comments patronising, poorer people do not live on snacks

That shows what you know about being poor in our society Christinefrance .

Well I’ll just get ready for the kicking now but thanks GG.

[clapping] Well said maryeliza.

As usual annie you miss the point - there are situations where politeness is fine but as far as religion goes, people who argue it should be treated politely usually mean that it shouldn’t be criticised or made fun of - why? It has no special status whatsoever - I’ve explained upthread that when I visit religious buildings or attend services in them ( as much as you think I shouldn’t) I behave properly - I would say with respect because I am a ‘guest’ as I would in someone’s house. Outside of this, I see absolutely no reason to be ‘polite’ whatever that means about religion and especially given the way the various religions treat each other and always have done not to mention the way they treat women, gay people and in the very recent past black people. What’s polite about calling gay people evil and perverted? What’s polite about standing outside an abortion clinic harassing frightened young women? What’s polite about hiding child abuse in the church and protecting ordained priests? Politeness and religion - don’t make me laugh. And as for your post, what was polite about bringing up the case of the member of the Gregg family? I notice you didn’t get back to me on that- my post was too near the bone I expect. A bit less hypocritical superficial politeness and snowflakery and a bit more decency and honesty would serve religion well. Thought for the Day this morning said it all - but you would not have agreed - Giles Fraser’s wife is Jewish and at Christmas goes to his church and - sit down- sings along with the carols and he thinks that’s great. But then what does he know?

Good grief maryeliza, your reply to Chewbacca shows much about you. You think something has to be special to deserve
politeness, explains much

Poor people may feel just as annoyed/ offended by Greggs nativity scene as anybody else,why wouldn’t they?
Is anybody actually thinking that if you are poor you can’t be a Christian? Or that you live on sausage rolls for that matter.

Who did the church STEAL the carol In The Bleak Mid Winter front Jen?

It's rich people who consider the sausage roll as a snack. For poor people it's often the protein part of the meal.

Exactly Christine nor does politics have any place in this, although it was to be expected that some would use this thread as a platform.

Oh dear to think the humble sausage roll could inspire all this contention ! Ok I know its not really about the sausage roll.
GracesGran I find your comments patronising, poorer people do not live on snacks and one does not have to subscribe to a particular faith to feel offended when it is mocked.

Who and where has anyone said that those 'with faith' (which one) are unhinged? Do you have a reference for this. I imagine that where other faiths are culturally superior there may be comments. Surely that just what happens in this country, one based on Christianity, where I often hear mocking of others faiths (not necessarily on this forum) and the culture that surrounds them.

Personally, if I was an alien looking in from the outside, I would be very intrigued by the fact that so many people who 'defend' Christianity no longer go to church, etc. I would also question those who subscribe to papers that, rather than see the poor as "blessed" see them as a group to be attacked. This even occurs if you see this part of the bible as "blessed are the poor in spirit" with many voting for a government that talks the talk about mental health, but in the ten years it has been in power it has not walked the walk.

Noticeably, those who see a sausage roll as a harbinger of an all out attack on Christianity also often vote for a party whose ethos is to make a very few people rich. What did Jesus, who you think should be in the manger, say about the money changers in the temple. Remind me.

In some ways the sausage roll is more Christian than a lot of the dancing on the head of a pin on here. It mainly feeds the poorer people in society.

Bit of a hyperbolic response there Chew and especially from someone whose posts frequently demonstrate anything but that dubious ill defined ‘virtue’.

Why? What makes religion so special that it deserves politeness? And anyway it’s a matter of opinion whether the sausage roll was impolite - in fact it’s a matter of opinion in general what constitutes politeness.

Perfect Nfk ! And as NanaandGrampy said, the best reply all thread.

NfkDumpling - my favourite reply all thread !!

Politeness?

Ah but Nfk your comment is predicated upon the belief that the use of the sausage roll did indeed derogate Christianity - that’s not what everyone believes, including Christians. And anyway why should any religion be free from derogation?

Been lurking on this thread, as its interesesting to see the differing points of view (mine, as a woolly Christian with Buddhist leanings, was to feel mildly offended at the derogation of any religion), and I just wanted to thank Baggs for the UTube link. The best use for a Greggs sausage role I think.