Jesus replaced with a Gregg's sausage roll.

Christina Rosetti wrote In the Bleak Midwinter as a poem, and it was pinched by the church which put it to music and turned it into a carol.
Why is that nonsense?
Just because you don't believe it doesn't make it nonsense.

Thank you Maw for bringing the thread back......it had got lost in all the ‘whataboutery’ as a certain poster used to say.
Advertising gimmick or crass idea, Greggs and anyone else
Are unlikely to pull another stunt like this.

I must admit I have never bought a Greggs sausage roll or pasty anyway and am even less likely to so as an advertising gimmick (and that is all it is) it has failed with me.
I agree Anniebach and revert to my reindeer analogy

Thread boring now, listening to a certain three chatting, admit can't think of a more suited threesome

I have more to do than google nonsense

I've always thought that Jesus was a good person and a good socialist, historically.

I think I would start with good people Jen. Being a good Christian hasn't always been about being a good person. Good Christians who are good people do exist though.

My son worked in a Christian Brothers school. They are now all working in Sierra Leone, helping the poor and oppressed there. Good Christians.

It's interesting learning more about the smaller sects/religions. I went out with a Christadelphian once and worked with a member of the Plymouth Brethren. If it had been his company I wouldn't have been allowed to work there. As he said "our women don't work" which they apparently applied to those who aren't their women too where they were in a position to apply it.

This is still your country too ( unless you decamp to Denmark.)

I think that was personal, lemon.

She never saw the decorations.
I did know about them because there is a JW in the family, who would have nothing to do with Christmas. I just expected her to give a bit of notice, and not just stay away.

No reflection on your decorative taste Jen.

I must go

Don't blame Jens JW who didn't like the dcorations that is, not Lemons comment...

The new Bishop of Ripon is living and working in New Zealnd at the moment. She finishes on Christmas Day.
She is from the UK (Scotland originally)

It costs £11.50 to visit Canterbury Cathedral (even the precincts) and when we went we were advised to visit the crypt first as that would be closed later. We did that, returned to look at the rest and were banned from going anywhere else because they were going to hold a service in the choir stalls.

Don't blame her
Ok I'm going now
a it's bedtime
b The weird arguments on here have led me to adopt a Lord Wimsey lightness which is unbecoming and inappropriate

^Tbh it’s hard to know exactly what you are talking about
durhamjen and GracesGranM2 sometimes.^

Personal and derogatory with nothing about the thread again Lemons.

We had a Jehovah's Witness work for us when we had a cafe. We put the Christmas decorations up on the Sunday and she didn't turn up for work on the Monday. No explanation or anything. Never heard from her again.
Fortunately there were lots of students who were asking for work.

I think the muddle came in when Annie asked if GG was a Jehovah Witness because she didn't celebrate Midwinter. Obviously the whole concept of Midwinter is limited to where you are on the globe so I got sidetracked into the somewhat dubious connection between it an JWs.
Flutter budget!

Also thanks for looking up about Christina Rosetti. I had hoped that Annie would find out for herself, but no.
I first learnt it as a poem before I heard it as a carol, when I was in high school.

Thanks Eglantine. I was sure you mentioned the Southern hemisphere, which is why I started talking about the next Bishop of Ripon, who is coming from the Southern hemisphere, New Zealand to be exact.

"As the sunflower turns to the sun when he sets
The same face that she turned when he rose......"
??

Admission charges for Coventry Cathedral, NOT donations. If you want to pray or light a candle you can be directed to a special area, eventually, but you have to get in line with the paying ‘customers’.

awww how sweet Eglantine, how loyal

Oh Im not in the Southern Hemisphere. But I do like it. Especially when it's winter here!

Umm, I looked it up. The poem was commissioned by an American magazine. After Christina Rosetti's death Holst set it to music. It became instantly popular and was sung in churches, nonconformist chapels and secular places such as village halls. The American magazine did not enforce the copyright but technically it was stolen. Fascinating eh?