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Why do so many Young girls talk with a croak in their voices.

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Lilypops Thu 19-Oct-17 17:08:19

Listening to young girls /women on television lately, why do they all talk with a croak in their voices at the end of each sentence,and drop their voice lower, Is it an Americanism

00mam00 Sat 21-Oct-17 08:33:28

I come across vocal fry occasionally in local shops where students have Saturday jobs. I tried to describe it to my daughter, she knew what I meant immediately, she works in a local university.

Thank goodness my GCs hasn’t picked up on it yet, if they do, it will be stamped out immediately. It is as silly as the Aussie inflection but sounds much worse.

Iam64 Sat 21-Oct-17 08:45:24

I love those Lord Peter Whimsey novels, what ho anyone? Same with many novels written at the same time, Jeeves and Wooster for example.
Patterns of speech change over time as demonstrated when we hear newsreel from the 50's or 60's . They're only young once as we all know only too well. Let them enjoy being part of stuff that makes them identify with their own age group. It is easily understood so we don't need interpreters.

Anya Sat 21-Oct-17 09:01:39

OP.....do they?

Tingleydancer Sat 21-Oct-17 09:07:07

Yes I know exactly what you mean by the croaky voice thing. It's ridiculous and affected - I wish they'd be natural, get a life and stop being so self-obsessed!

lovebooks Sat 21-Oct-17 09:09:26

HATE the croaky voices, and the question inflexion at the end of sentences.

MawBroon Sat 21-Oct-17 09:34:25

Unkind comment about Nick Robinson watermeadow.
What chewbacca said.
You may well blush

MawBroon Sat 21-Oct-17 09:36:38

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/24/vocal-fry-strong-female-voice

So not an entirely new phenomenon.
Hadn’t noticed it myself shock

NemosMum Sat 21-Oct-17 10:27:58

Grampie, any problem with your voice should be investigated if it has not resolved in 3 weeks. Probably nothing to worry about, but you should see your GP (I'm a retired Speech and Language Therapist). As for original post, 'glottal fry' it is a silly fashion which could cause vocal fold ('chord') damage if overdone.

Nanabilly Sat 21-Oct-17 10:47:02

I wonder if they are copying Holly Willoughby . She is the only person I have noticed doing it.
As for Nick Robertson /Robinson comment ..his was caused by cancer ..not purposefully done .

marpau Sat 21-Oct-17 11:16:47

The ones I dislike are young people who speak as if they are of afro Caribbean descent and finish every sentence with innit?

Teddy111 Sat 21-Oct-17 13:04:58

I remember that Alina.Does anyone know why all questions are answered with 'So' first,now.

HannahLoisLuke Sat 21-Oct-17 14:57:00

I've noticed that Millie MacIntosh formerly on Made in Chelsea has this croak in her voice, and one or two others whose names escape me.

I had a quite serious croak for months so went to see GP. Was referred to ENT specialist who gave me endoscopy and diagnosed silent reflux. I did not have heartburn until I took the prescribed medication. Now drinking aloe vera gel each day instead and there is improvement. Maybe these girls need to see a doctor.

willa45 Sat 21-Oct-17 15:24:33

All the 'fries' and 'isms' are the result of person after person imitating one another (usually from people they admire). The catalyst is the grade school mentality inherent in this, not unlike the now outdated California Valley Girl speak of the 1980s.

I'm from the US and I'm thankful that most mature, well educated adults don't speak like that here. Idiosyncrasies such as these appear to affect the younger set and they are popularized by the media in TV commercials, Sit Coms, etc.

Fortunately, all these fads have a short shelf life because they are soon replaced by new and even more annoying ones. smile

lovebeigecardigans1955 Sat 21-Oct-17 16:51:41

I've just listened for about three seconds (couldn't bear it any longer) on that You Tube thing - what a dreadful racket!
I've noticed too that with Country Music there seems to be a lot of young US ladies with what I call a dreadful twang - or shrill sounding voice. How on earth can this be considered musical? Dear me!
Give me a lovely deep baritone - Tom Jones, David Coverdale or Rag 'n' Bone Man (down with the kids?) and the adorable liquid velvet which was Ella Fitzgerald.

Juggernaut Sat 21-Oct-17 17:30:21

Tingleydancer
Exactly!
It seems to be an affectation amongst young girls, it goes alongside the folded arms and bored with life facial expression!
I'm always tempted to give them a good shake!

lemongrove Sat 21-Oct-17 17:50:36

Haven’t heard this as yet ( croaky voices) but I suppose it will soon vanish as a fad.

BlueBelle Sat 21-Oct-17 19:04:13

I m still in the dark Lemongrove I ve never noticed Holly Willoby not talking normally
I agree about the gangster intonations I hate hearing dat I suppose it is catching like all camp men ( not all gay men but the very camp ones) have the same way of talking Far more feminine than women

watermeadow Sat 21-Oct-17 19:38:32

Sorry I didn’t know Nick Robinson’s horrible voice was caused by illness. Maybe he’s in the wrong job.

Chewbacca Sat 21-Oct-17 20:53:34

shock Watermeadow that's a awful thing to say about Nicky Robinson. His voice isn't "horrible"; it's what he was left with as the result of cancer. I hope there aren't any GNetters on here who have had to learn to speak again, as the result of serious illness, who now think that they too have a "horrible voice". Really unkind comment.

Iam64 Sat 21-Oct-17 21:32:39

Water meadow, I've admired Nick Robinson for returning to work and the BBC for maintaining his contract.
To start your comment by saying "sorry " is passive aggressive. You aren't sorry at all. He is not in the wrong job and I hope he remains well and able to work.

MawBroon Sat 21-Oct-17 21:37:02

Watermeadow why have you got it in for Nick Robinson? And on what do you base your observation
Maybe he’s in the wrong job ?
The man has had an outstanding career as a journalist and broadcaster and it is to his credit that he fought back from the cancer which could have killed him.
Why so unkind?

From Wikipedia
Nicholas Anthony "Nick" Robinson (born 5 October 1963) is a British journalist, currently a presenter on the BBC's Today programme.[1] Prior to this he spent ten years as political editor for the BBC, and he has had many other roles with the broadcaster

CardiffJaguar Sat 21-Oct-17 21:57:59

It is so annoying. They have no idea how to talk on camera and have not been taught as they should have been. Yet even some men do this as well. And in all US programmes there will be instances with the notable exception of NCIS. Perhaps this emphasises why that series is at the top.

MawBroon Sat 21-Oct-17 23:08:35

Who has no idea CardiffJaguar?
Never watch US TV so I don’t even know what NCIS stands for but I would be surprised if they could beat the likes of Kate Adie, Orla Guerin, Matt Frei or Frank Gardner.

aitch Sun 22-Oct-17 10:59:36

Not strictly relevant but has anyone else noted that when asked a question (on t.v or radio particularly) almost everyone begins their answer with "So" ?

CardiffJaguar Sun 22-Oct-17 21:41:41

And just how often, MawBroon, do you see that four on TV?
The younger ones do not compare.