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How do we phrase things?, let us count the ways......

(34 Posts)
phoenix Thu 20-Jul-17 20:04:47

With apologies to Shakespeare, of course.

We think: that was a pathetic comment.

We should say: I admire your faith in human nature, but sadly not everyone shares your morals.

We think: That child is seriously over indulged and is ruling the house, and is in danger of becoming an utter brat!

We should say: I think it is important to help children to understand that they are part of a family unit, if they think the world revolves around them, they are in for a seriously disappointing life.

We think: You are so politically left/right wing, that you should be covered in jam and exposed to wasps.

We should say: Whilst I think you are a left/right wing extremist, I respect your right to express your views.

grannyqueenie Fri 21-Jul-17 21:25:55

cherrytree you just took me back to an evening watching to with my parents! grin

Chewbacca Fri 21-Jul-17 17:01:30

I'll try and remember the embossed carbuncle for future use. Might try it out for size on my boss been trying to get sacked or redundant for ages and that might just do it.

Baggs Fri 21-Jul-17 16:54:47

Indeed, chew hmm

Shakespeare's characters didn't hold back if their relatives annoyed pissed them off. I'm thinking of Lear calling one of his elder daughters an "embossèd carbuncle".

Sometimes an uncomfortable, 'not nice' thing needs saying.

Chewbacca Fri 21-Jul-17 16:38:56

I do sometimes wonder if the posters who say "shut up" to those that they disagree with on a thread, are as vocal and rude to their families and friends irl. Or is it that they have one set of manners for face to face discussions and another for when they're behind a keyboard?

Baggs Fri 21-Jul-17 15:59:55

I don't like that saying about saying only nice things or saying nothing. It isn't always appropriate to avoid saying something one's listeners won't want to hear — home truths to thoughtless teenagers, for instance, doing stuff that causes worry and upset.

And I think forthrightness is sometimes appropriate, though not "shut up" on Gransnet. That's just rude.

gillybob Fri 21-Jul-17 15:33:44

We would say "Had yer gob"

my grandad used to say "gan tek a Lang walk off a short pier"

Tizliz Fri 21-Jul-17 15:29:17

how about ' take the battery out of your keyboard'

Primrose65 Fri 21-Jul-17 15:28:33

Oh dear. Now I can't get the 'Shaddap Your Face' song out of my head for some reason.

Granny23 Fri 21-Jul-17 00:31:36

Shut your Gob - NB I don't mean that literally, only translating grin

ninathenana Fri 21-Jul-17 00:29:08

I'm just guessing, Granny23 would the English version be
"Shut ya gob"
Or in queens English "close your mouth"

Chewbacca Thu 20-Jul-17 23:14:02

What's "doing do ghob" mean granny23? Please translate!

Granny23 Thu 20-Jul-17 23:07:49

Or in Scottish Gaelic = Duin do ghob

Cherrytree59 Thu 20-Jul-17 22:53:04

Oops too many says!blush

Cherrytree59 Thu 20-Jul-17 22:51:49

My grandpa would say often say
'awa an' bile yer heid' to any politician who happened to be in TV.
My gran would in turn say to him
Haud yer wheesht!
To which he would reply
'Ah but just look at them, a pair o' wally dugsgrin

Elegran Thu 20-Jul-17 22:13:25

True, Granny23 You can say all kinds of things in regionalese. When Dh was a student, certain of his friends were targetted in a pub by a couple of English girls who were not at all to their taste. They strung them along for a while, saying flattering things like "Aye, ye're a pair o' wee hairies, are ye no?" with a winning smile. They probably went home thinking they had been greatly admired.

Chewbacca Thu 20-Jul-17 22:08:59

'Haud yer wheesht' I've not heard that in years Granny23!

Chewbacca Thu 20-Jul-17 22:07:08

I think that when someone writes "shut up" to a poster, it indicates that the person saying "shut up", is actually the one who is, quite literally, lost for words. They're unable to articulate themselves any further and in saying "shut up", they're demonstrating that they've come to the end of their own vocabulary and debating skills. I have a mental image of them standing with their hands on their hips, chin jutted forward and a big scowl on their face because they can't express themselves any further. Bit sad really in an adult .

Primrose65 Thu 20-Jul-17 22:00:32

gringringringringrin

Granny23 Thu 20-Jul-17 22:00:16

'Haud yer wheesht' is a good Scottish phrase that covers the situation perfectly. GN HQ would not know if it were rude or not.

'Awa an bile yer heid' is perhaps a trifle too obvious and you might be warned that 'yer jaiket's oan a shoogly nail'.

Nothing compares to a foreign language or regional dialect for insulting people without them realising.

Cherrytree59 Thu 20-Jul-17 21:59:54

Why don't you TIPPEX!grin

Primrose65 Thu 20-Jul-17 21:56:24

Personally, I can't see the point of writing 'shut up' on a forum. I mean, they have shut up already. Then they've hit "post message". That's how you get to read the comment you're saying 'shut up' to.
Maybe I'm a bit weird.

phoenix Thu 20-Jul-17 21:43:05

Actually, I don't think, as grown ups, we should ever need to use the phrase "shut up" when posting on a forum, as we are using written words, not spoken.

I wonder what the equivalent phrase might be, "erase yourself",?

No, that's daft, perhaps it would be "please refrain from further comments on this topic, as I feel your views are too conflicting with mine" or "please stop posting on this thread, as I really must have the last word, because I'm RIGHT!"

Of course, please add your own thoughts, even if they don't concur with mine ! wink

phoenix Thu 20-Jul-17 21:29:47

Tizliz me too, but at times I fail to observe that rule blush

rosesarered Thu 20-Jul-17 21:28:39

Phoenix grin

A rosesarered by any other name would smell as sweet.Perhaps I will change my name,I rather like appledumpling.?

Alima 'shut up' should be: I mustn't trouble you to explain further.grin

phoenix Thu 20-Jul-17 21:27:48

I think that the potential problem with emoticons is that sometimes a smiley is added to a post to make it appear more benign than the words would imply!