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Anniebach Thu 22-Jun-17 10:40:18

Prince Harry has told an American Magazine that none of the younger Windsors wants to be King or queen, and if he becomes king he will still do his own shopping.

Pity he doesn't buy his own house and get a job

Anniebach Fri 23-Jun-17 09:07:54

I certaintly am not envious of him or anyone's wealth. For me living in a country where we have so many homeless I am irritated by the weak defence put forward for Harry, we pay for his house, his security team, he gives sod all back to the country. As for envy of his status, what status ?

gillybob Fri 23-Jun-17 09:04:10

In my eyes If he Had a real job (you know like other people his age) then he would have the right to moan about "his lot". As it stands he lives the life of a playboy and has no right whatsoever to moan.

Mapleleaf Fri 23-Jun-17 08:50:03

Well said, POGS.
Seems to be a lot of envy regarding his wealth/status.
In some people's eyes, whatever he does/ doesn't do will be wrong.

Rigby46 Fri 23-Jun-17 08:48:15

Neither is he young - he is 32. All the men I know of that age are working hard, often in socially important but poorly paid jobs. Some haven't had a pay rise for years. They have student debts hanging round their necks, are paying high rents with house ownership a distant dream. Some have battled mental health problems with scant NHS services available. Others have had personal and family problems to battle. There is nothing remotely special about him except his enormous completely unearned privilege. I thought his comments in the interview were frankly disgraceful and patronising. He should just suck it up like many other men have to and stop whinging or give it all up.

Anniebach Fri 23-Jun-17 08:40:58

What has he done this year? Appeared with William and Kate a few times to launch their charity but what else? The Ivictus Games which is a good charity will be held every two years,

He behaviour is very like Andrew, he was the darling of the Nation, good fun, not like his older brother ,who has always worked same as Anne,

There are many charities he could realy support , not just give his name too. He is nothing like his grandfsther, he is very like his uncle Charles

gillybob Fri 23-Jun-17 08:27:52

I wouldn't use the word "poor" in relation with any of the royals.

Prince Harry is neither financially poor nor poorly. He is young, fit, good looking, extremely rich and privileged and can literally do whatever he likes with his life.

He has spoken recently about his mental health (following the death of his mother) but again I would say he is extremely privileged as many most young people with mental health problems will never have access to the level of help he will have undoubtedly had.

Iam64 Fri 23-Jun-17 08:22:22

There is a thread running on whether it's possible to feel the pain someone else experiences. I don't expect I feel Harrys feelings but I definitely empathise. Families do their best for children. The RF no doubt believed continuing with their usual Church attendance, taking two boys who had only just been told their mother was dead to the service. It included being seen by waiting members of the public. To then expose them to crowds when viewing floral tributes, only to have them walk behind the coffin, in full view of crowds - who would do that to their children? I was appalled at the time but I can empathise with the Royals who did what they thought was expected of them.
I don't understand how so many feel it's ok to attack and criticise this young man,. He joined the army, lets criticise him for that. He behaved like so many other young men, let's have a go st him for that. He's done great work with Injured service personnel, let's say he should stop that and work at Tesco.
Give him a break. Losing a parent at the age he did is linked to risk of mental health problems in adult life. He, his brother and Kate are putting time and energy into the need for mental health services to be improved. Good for them.

Christinefrance Fri 23-Jun-17 08:12:05

Well said POGS. I agree with your comments totally. I do think now though that Harry should move on from airing this in public and concentrate his efforts in other areas before he loses public sympathy.

POGS Fri 23-Jun-17 02:38:29

So Rigby and paddyann can I ask have you ever :-

Set foot in Afghanistan as an operational member of the armed service?

Supported through deeds not rhetoric support for injured servicemen and women?

Supported charities and managed to raise mental health awareness into the nations psyche whilst at the same time being demonized by some , a point I fail to follow the logic of.

I am neither a Royalist nor Republican but perhaps that allows me to put prejudices to one side and see the man for what he does not who he is and most certainly I am not remotely interested in class warfare.

From what I deduce the failings of Prince Harry for some are his wealth and birth right which gives rise to the ad nauseam
comments that as sure as s--t flies off a shovel follow any thread re the Royal Family.

I accept that some of the Royal Family are maybe fair game but Prince Harry, really!

Rigby46 Fri 23-Jun-17 01:28:01

The Army was a ridiculous career choice - he could never have been a fully operational soldier for any meaningful period of time because of his Royal status.

Swanny Fri 23-Jun-17 01:19:03

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear! This man can't do right for doing wrong! Recent comments seem to put paid to the theory he is not Prince Charles' natural son. By opening his mouth and putting his foot in it, as Prince Philip has done on so many occasions, he certainly seems to have his grandfather's genes. Let the man be, he wanted a career and proved himself worthy in the British Army but was pulled out by powers greater than his own. When he promotes 'worthy causes' he is accused of cashing in on his mother's legacy. I wouldn't be in his shoes for all the tea in China, as the old saying goes.

Rigby46 Fri 23-Jun-17 00:47:47

He could renounce his claim to the throne. He is independently wealthy ( money inherited from his mother). He was completely wrong to talk as he did during that interview. He has no judgement. What is the point of him?

paddyann Thu 22-Jun-17 23:34:21

Many children do lose one or even both parents and it must be traumatic and difficult to come to terms with but most are not living their lives in the glare of the media .
and none of them have the benefit of the privilege and wealth this young man has had,Many families are left on the breadline when they lose a parent...even more so since Mrs Mays government has taken their widows allowance off them This young man had everything he needed including a family that cared for him...frankly I get fed up hearing their whinging ,a stint of REAL life would do them all the world of good.

yggdrasil Thu 22-Jun-17 15:59:41

I don't know about large ego, I think he is grown up and realised he is his own person and can speak for himself. Which isn't true of his brother or father.
They none of them choose to be royal, and they have a deep sense of duty bred into them for generations.
It is unlikely he would be allowed to 'get a house' because of the security considerations. He has done a lot for charity with his Invictus games among other things. It isn't as if he could get a job working for someone else, there would be constant harassment from the media. As there is now every time he wants to date someone.

Anniebach Thu 22-Jun-17 15:27:41

Jalima, he cannot live his life after few years in the army swaning around , do other soldiers come home and while away the days or do they work to support themselves and their families. I just think he has a rather large ego and cannot say no to an interview .

Jalima1108 Thu 22-Jun-17 15:01:11

'It's not all ha ha hee hee'

Ana Thu 22-Jun-17 14:57:02

Although I would have thought Beatrice or Eugenie would jump at the chance.

They probably would, Jalima until they realised what a lot of hard work, often boring, the job brings with it!

Jalima1108 Thu 22-Jun-17 14:54:11

Actually, anniebach, I think he has done a lot for disabled servicemen and knows what they went through in Afghanistan and elsewhere. It's often difficult to find a sense of direction upon leaving the Forces and if he is being pushed in a direction he doesn't want to go and always in the limelight even more difficult.

Many children do lose one or even both parents and it must be traumatic and difficult to come to terms with but most are not living their lives in the glare of the media .

Jalima1108 Thu 22-Jun-17 14:51:42

I wonder if he is distancing himself in preparation for marriage and removing himself from the line of succession?

He shouldn't speak for the others though even if it is the truth.
Although I would have thought Beatrice or Eugenie would jump at the chance.

Anniebach Thu 22-Jun-17 14:43:52

They didn't say - don't want to do it.

Lillie Thu 22-Jun-17 14:42:13

He might be a fellow human being, he might not want to be part of the firm, he might even know that his brother is reluctant too, BUT he shouldn't speak out in public. He has had sufficient grooming, education and preparation to realise that such thoughts should be kept private, otherwise as Annie has said we might as well dismiss them all from service now.

Anniebach Thu 22-Jun-17 14:42:07

Then time he started acting like one , get a job, buy a house and he is free to opt out of his no 5 role so do it not moan about it.

merlotgran Thu 22-Jun-17 14:39:57

To be fair, have any of our recent monarchs declared their undying wish to succeed?

Edward VIII abdicated, George VI was filled with terror at the thought of being King and the Queen had to succeed him far earlier than she would have wished if given the choice.

Prince Charles is probably resigned to either having a short reign or stepping aside for William and he's not keen either.

hmm

Luckygirl Thu 22-Jun-17 14:35:10

Sounds like a fellow human being to me!

Anniebach Thu 22-Jun-17 13:59:42

If queenie was to die now no matter who becomes king he has given the world the chance to say 'awwww poor thing,he doesn't want the job' and speech made will sound hollow , ' I promise my life be it long or short is dedicated to you but I wish it wasn't me