Jo jo bows.....

Bluebelle that is so very sad....?
As much as I and my dear GD's love them, I'm fairly sure they are not meant to be worn by babies when sleeping - but how awful for the mother.....? I'm sure she just didn't think about it....

Maimeo ??

Also - being worn by older women - a big NO ??

Couldn't resist posting this.....

That is so awful BlueBelle

I ve just read on a local chat page of a young baby dying when the large Minnie Mouse bow slipped over her face while she was sleeping Her mother had put her down for a nap and not thought to take the big bow off

I think they are awful especially on grown women but i understand why little girls like them.What i really dislike is the way these young girls are being mugged by the makers of these, £8-12 each is a disgrace when they can be maid for pennies.

GD sounds very sensible, good for her!

I asked my GD1 (11) about these bows and she is very keen to have one but'they cost quite a lot' . When I asked if she could wear them to school she said that some girls did have the smaller version black ones with diamonds on!! She thought the big ones would not be good for school!

Not suitable for school. Firstly they would need to be removed for games/PE lessons, which means they could be lost or mixed up. Secondly some girls will spend hours doing their hair anyway, this would make it worse! Teachers have enough to do as it is without having to police which bow is whose, or having to haul girls out of the loo because they spend so long doing their hair.

This made me smile tonight.... ?

Diva 2 is here for the weekend and when I unpacked her bag - look what I found.....???

This - plus a pair of pj's and some cuddly toys......????

I promise not to resurrect this post again....???

Bluebelle - the uniform is simply a sweatshirt - if children can't afford it we make sure they have one for school outings - former pupils donate them.

My point - which I seem to be failing to get across! - is that pupils should be required to wear what is safe and decent and that their education is not impaired by not wearing uniform. It is just a tradition; but schools with no uniforms do just as well as those with uniforms.

And bows are just bows and no big deal!

The bows in Joggingirl's photo of her two granddaughters would be appropriate for wearing at any time but if you look at the ones for sale on E-bay you will see they are definately a "fashion craze" and I can understand why they should not be encouraged by schools. I also wore all the 50s/60s fashion crazes but not to school!! The bows are very colourful and certainly brighten up the class line when going into school but I am so thankful I have a grandson not a granddaughter and don't have to battle with this one. Some of the one's worn by the five and six year olds are very Minnie Mouse and cute but because of their size and bright colours definitely not for school.

I don't actually thing it's anything to do with bows but the size of them

I see absolutely no point in having a school uniform if the children only wear it on outings why would you go to the expense of buying a uniform and only put it on a few times a year Sorry butbi dontbget that at all
I showed my 14 year old the picture of the Jojo bows and she said oh that's only little kids wearing them I must say I haven't seen any myself round here (thankfully)

When my GD was in primary school, she had to have her long blonde hair tied back. It would have got in the way in PE classes and some practical lessons. I can't find the picture of me and my sisters wearing bows in our hair in the 1940s though nothing like the monstrosity in the link. Girls who wore plaits usually had the ends tied with ribbons, but in small bows. Now, how about the school allowing bows but only in school colours. The girls would soon be fed up with those!

I am not a big fan of strict school uniforms though I know many parents find them helpful.
If the bows breach a school uniform colour ie multicoloured when uniform is e.g. navy I see why a school may ask for them not to be worn. Banning them completely seems a bit OTT if they are in a school colour.

Some schools use uniform rules in the same way as the uniformed services do: to get control, discipline and unquestioning responses from their personnel. I can see that is absolutely necessary when working in life/death situations.
Schools are not like that and I feel discipline should focus more on developing personal responsibility and rules kept to a minimum to ensure safety for all and a good environment for learning. If a hairbow is not endangering anyone, upsetting another pupil or interfering with learning I don't see a major problem!

I suppose the point of school uniforms, apart from identifying with your school, is that it is a 'leveller'. As Ana points out, the rivalry and the nastiness that can occur if a child is not wearing the 'right' clothes, the 'right' trainers can amount to bullying.

Clothes should be of insignificant importance to a school pupil.

Exactly....if you come down hard on the small things, hopefully the bigger problems won't happen!

pen50 said: "I always thought the point of strict dress codes in school was to channel the pupils' revolutionary efforts into ways to thwart the clothing regulations, thus avoiding a re-run of If..."

I agree. School fuss about unimportant stuff is a distraction ruse to keep kids toeing the line where it actually matters.

I disagree, for all the reasons given by others above - the cost, the rivalry, the petty niggling schoolgirls of that age are prone to. But that's just my opinion.

The point about sixth formers is not that they are likely to wear them, but that their education is not impaired by what they do choose to wear; any more than a primary schoolchild's choice of fashion impairs theirs. Therefore banning them in school has no point whatsoever.

They harm no-one. They are not "tacky." They are just the latest fashion. They do not involve indecency or danger or any other good reason not to wear them to school. They are just bows. Just bows!

And the link in the OP did indicate that this was a primary-school or early teen craze - not sixth-formers.

Rubbish! Just because I think they're 'tacky' is nothing to do with 'class' - they just look like Minnie Mouse bows to me and not even that cute!

Fine out of school (we all wore some strange choices) but why insist that schools should allow them?

"Tacky" - now there is a value judgement if ever I heard one!So maybe this aversion to the bows is about class?!

I too am a school governor - our lovely school has a uniform, but pupils are only obliged to wear it when on a school outing - for safety reasons, so that they can easily be identified. Otherwise, on an ordinary school day, they wear it or not as they choose.

It does not seem to have stood in the way of their academic progress or the social cohesion of the school - or at least OfSted certainly did not seem to think so, to go by their judgement of the school!

I was in school taking some photos the other day, and captured a lovely group of smiling girls with their hair bows - they looked wonderful.