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Matriarchal family or not?

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NanaandGrampy Tue 21-Feb-17 15:22:56

I was chatting with my sisters and talking about our family in general and we came to the conclusion that as a whole over several generations we are a matriarchal family.

Strong women who make most of the decisions married to nice , easy going men who recognise that they get an easier life by letting their wives rule the roost.

It has worked for us, we rarely have a serious falling out , and looking at the younger women in our family it's clear that on the whole they too will be leaders not followers.

I wondered if we're a rare bunch or if others recognise the strong women in their families?

Or have ' the inmates overtaken the asylum' and the men are in charge in your family smile

Smileless2012 Thu 23-Feb-17 12:41:25

I'm sure our DS would say 'yes, definately'grin but I wouldn't say so and I'm sure Mr. S. wouldn't think so either.

We both draw on one another's strengths and support one another's weaknesses. I'd say I'm more decisive in general but I couldn't get him to do something he was against doing, and wouldn't want too anyway.

Rinouchka Thu 23-Feb-17 08:42:09

Oops typos: either/ a matriarchal

NanaandGrampy Thu 23-Feb-17 08:30:32

I don't think living in a matriarchy precludes discussion, or respect. My DH has many good qualities and I respect him totally but only one of us is decisive.

We have always joked that he couldn't make a decision to save his life and he is aware of that as am I so we found a level that works for us. I don't consider him not my equal .

I certainly don't 'rule the roost' but I do make 99% of the decisions- on the other hand I don't do DIY , put the bins out or do much gardening smile Its all about talent in our house .

Rinouchka Thu 23-Feb-17 08:08:24

Not our style other.
However, character traits can be different without having to resort to the matriarchal/patriarchal identifications. OH is quieter in a bemused scholarly way. I am more energetic, outgoing, enthusiastic, so ideas/projects usually initiate with me but nothing is done without equal support , if not always input( esp. financial matters).

DS and DD1 like their dad. DD2 exactly like me but with twice the ideas and energy. DD3, the best mixture of her parents.

I had an matriarchal paternal grandmother and her five DLs had a hellish time under her thumb, including my mum.

kittylester Thu 23-Feb-17 07:36:32

It's not our style - we talk about everything!!

stillaliveandkicking Wed 22-Feb-17 23:55:00

grin at merlot.

Exactly!

merlotgran Wed 22-Feb-17 23:46:30

I'm far too laid back to be a matriarch. Sounds like a lot of hard work to me. I wouldn't know where to start.

stillaliveandkicking Wed 22-Feb-17 23:39:47

I think it should be equal really.. not sure anyone should "rule the roost"

M0nica Wed 22-Feb-17 23:34:45

I do not see why matriarchy means not respecting a partner or bossing one. If it does anyone not living in a matriarchal relationship must be living in a patriarchal one.

stillaliveandkicking Wed 22-Feb-17 19:38:29

My worst nightmare. If I didn't respect a lover, boyfriend or spouse he'd be gone. Never wanted to boss one.

SparklyGrandma Wed 22-Feb-17 18:06:41

My mother is definitely a controlling matriarch, my DF just lets her run and control things. He cant say no to her. As a AC, I am a rare example of someone who can say no to her and live grin.

I prefer more equal relationships, as did both my grandmothers - one of my grandfathers even did housework, in days when it just wasn't done, they both worked full time.

I taught my DS to listen and discuss with his wife/partner. he definitely lets DiL run the whole show.

I think equality of discussion, household and finance decisions, time and childcare decisions, is the best way to go for a happy marriage.

Just saying! flowers

Araabra Wed 22-Feb-17 15:56:24

We each do what we're best at and leave it at that. I'm not interested in the bills or correspondence, making arrangements, or purchasing. So I don't. I enjoy behind the scene work and my AC and GC needs, so I dither on that bit.

Jalima Wed 22-Feb-17 15:41:38

I just wish he would sort out a lovely holiday and point me in the right direction .....

Jalima Wed 22-Feb-17 15:40:27

If I mention decorating his response is "chose the paint and we'll do it"
grin

Me: 'Where/when shall we go on holiday?'
DH: 'I don't know, you decide and sort it then point me in the right direction' (then moans because he had 'an important meeting' right in the middle of it grin)

gillybob Wed 22-Feb-17 15:08:03

My grandma on my mum's side was a very strong woman. She had to be as she had quite a hard life . She was definitely the glue that kept our family together. Her strength didn't pass down to my mum though as she was always the "little woman" and liked it that way. My dad always having to have the final say and make all the "important" decisions.

My mum only had one opinion on anything and that was my dad's opinion. grin

Whilst I don't think I am by any means a strong person I have inherited my grandma's way of being able to keep everyone together and to sort family problems. I am always the one who does the "looking after" just as my grandma did.

Just a pity I couldn't sort myself out now and again.

Legs55 Wed 22-Feb-17 14:46:15

My DM, myself & DD are all strong, independent women who have "held the purse strings" but had very good marriages. My DH was very easy going but still had firm views, he was no pushover.

trisher Wed 22-Feb-17 13:52:07

I suppose my family is matriarchal. My mum's mum was widowed at quite a young age so was. always very independent. My dad's dad was about but didn't contribute much, he always seemed to be hiding behind his newspaper! It was my gran who organised everything. My mum wasn't openly in charge but she usually got her own way. I've brought up 3 boys on my own. They do seem to go for very independent, strong women and I now have a very opinionated GD who likes to organise everything.

Lilyflower Wed 22-Feb-17 13:01:53

The DH and I have a very equal marriage and we divvy up the tasks, responsibilities and chores so we each decide and do in the areas suited to us. having said that, on the neutral ground we fight like cats and dogs. We generally hammer out something that suits both parties. I think this constant bickering is what keeps us going and I suppose we could pretend it was rational debate based on evidence. Nevertheless, I suspect it is an ongoing fight to be top dog, however temporary.

ninathenana Wed 22-Feb-17 12:37:58

H is like that. I've learnt not to pass comment on things I like when out shopping as I know his response will be "buy it" We will then row discuss the fact that I don't want it.
If I mention decorating his response is "chose the paint and we'll do it" It's never more than two or three weeks before he starts.
I do sometimes wish he was a bit more in charge.

Maggiemaybe Wed 22-Feb-17 12:24:15

Oh, she didn't have money, merlotgran! Her three brothers got all of that!

merlotgran Wed 22-Feb-17 12:20:43

Yep! Money talks!!

Maggiemaybe Wed 22-Feb-17 12:17:39

Me neither, Jalima! My dad's mum was a matriarch through and through - we all called her mother and we all adored her. She was tiny and her word was law, but she was very loving, not a bully at all. She came from quite a well to do family and her husband, who loved the bones of her, was the horsekeeper at the local pit, so perhaps he felt he'd done well to get her. I've heard that if she even mentioned she'd like anything - a new dress, say - he'd have half a dozen delivered for her perusal and encourage her to keep the lot.

I should be so lucky. grin

rosesarered Wed 22-Feb-17 12:09:25

A mixture in our family, our DS and DD's are all the strong character in their marriages, in my own, we are about equal, but DH usually manages the last word on a decision.in any relationship, marriage/ friends etc there is always going to be one that leads and another who follows, to a greater or lesser degree, that's what makes it a success really.

rosesarered Wed 22-Feb-17 12:05:47

That's because they are married to wimps easy going men Jalima grin

Jalima Wed 22-Feb-17 12:00:42

What I would like to know is - how do some women always, always get their own way? Everything they want in the house at whatever cost, husbands who smilingly jump when they say 'jump' or decorate when they say 'decorate'!

I have never managed it