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whitewave Sat 21-Jan-17 10:32:54

"It has been said that arguing against globalization is like arguing against the laws of gravity"

Kofi Annan - 7th Gen. Sec. UN

There have been a number of references to this in our various threads, often used in a perjoritive sense. So I want to explore this phenomenon, to understand what it means and to try to answer the question whether it is an inevitability, whether individual states can control it, who are the winners and losers.

Welcome all input, and just like populism let's try to keep it civilised.

Eons ago when at uni I can remember looking at this "new" phenomenon. We were just in the post colonial era, and globalization at this stage of understanding was simply looked at as an economic phenomenon.

But I want to argue that the term globalisation can be used to describe a number of processes apart from the economy.

I would argue then that there is a globalization of

Culture

Media

Technology

Socio- culture

Political

Biological - my particular interest

Economical.

I think that this is particularly relevant today, with many calling for a more nationalist perspective. So am going to try to work out whether an individual nation state can in fact "control" globalization, or whether they are simply "luddites" and denying the inevitable. If it can't be controlled how then do we control the winners and losers and would this control be desirable?

I think I've bitten off more than I can chew - but if anyone else is up for it let's give it a go!!

Elegran Sat 21-Jan-17 22:11:04

No, it was somewhere else, Maw and was something about a mute point, those two words were in it. Must have fallen off the end of a page and vanished.

You are right, SAAK, it is silent v doubtful. It must have been very silent because I have no idea what the point was.

MawBroon Sat 21-Jan-17 22:10:40

X'd posts? I was replying to Elegran 21.58

Jalima Sat 21-Jan-17 22:10:11

I used the term a moot point earlier today on some thread or other.

I used it as meaning 'a debatable question'.

I hope it wasn't me using it out of context hmm

stillaliveandkicking Sat 21-Jan-17 22:07:15

Oh no! is that a passive aggressive hint that I shouldn't be here? really? just because i don't fall in with your ideas of posting. I am actually a person and not a troll grin

MawBroon Sat 21-Jan-17 22:04:33

SAAK 21.23?

stillaliveandkicking Sat 21-Jan-17 22:03:01

Mute means silent and moot means a non point.

Elegran Sat 21-Jan-17 22:00:50

That definition is about mute as well as moot. Nice definition of a mute one “When somebody in a group makes a good suggestion, but somehow nobody hears it.”

Elegran Sat 21-Jan-17 21:58:54

YOU do, Ana but I've a feeling that whoever posted saying they were making one was a bit mixed up between mute and moot. Can't find it now.

Ana Sat 21-Jan-17 21:45:49

I do know the meaning of moot point, Elegran....(she said, faintly...)

stillaliveandkicking Sat 21-Jan-17 21:45:32

grin eat yourselves.

Elegran Sat 21-Jan-17 21:40:45

It makes no sense because it is on the wrong thread. Someone on a different thread made a mute point - must be an American poster who pronounces mute as moot so thinks they are both the same word.

moot point definition

Ana Sat 21-Jan-17 21:33:19

Oh dear, I stand corrected yet again...hmm

whitewave Sat 21-Jan-17 21:31:46

It would make even less sense then ana because how can a non -word be moot?

Ana Sat 21-Jan-17 21:27:27

I think you mean 'moot' saak. Otherwise your post makes no sense.

whitewave Sat 21-Jan-17 21:25:04

grin

stillaliveandkicking Sat 21-Jan-17 21:23:19

Globalisation is a made up word and it's mute.

whitewave Sat 21-Jan-17 20:40:13

Then you guess wrong I am afraid.

If you read the thread my argument is that globalisation in all its faces is a fact. That it brings huge challenges and that trying to fight it as a single nation state, where often the global enterprise has more wealth and power than the nation itself, requires cooperation between Nations like the Paris Agreement in order to mitigate against any damage to the environment or harm to its citizens.

mcem Sat 21-Jan-17 20:38:51

Where on earth did that come from?? Ww has said nothing advocating one world government!

Ankers Sat 21-Jan-17 20:32:41

I cant see it, so I will have to guess.

I guess that you are in favour of it.

In which case, dosent that involve complete globalization?

whitewave Sat 21-Jan-17 20:29:22

Well the answer is contained within this thread- it is there for you to read. I can't understand why you asked it. I will be more than happy to discuss my conclusions though

Ankers Sat 21-Jan-17 20:25:26

You havent answered the question.

It is more a case of where I will go with it, than how I arrived at it, iyswim

whitewave Sat 21-Jan-17 20:23:51

ankers Blimey how on earth did you arrive at that question, haven't you read this thread?!

Ankers Sat 21-Jan-17 20:22:07

Are you in favour of one world one goverment, whitewave?

whitewave Sat 21-Jan-17 18:04:42

Well yes I suppose a computer system can be global, but it doesn't have anything to do with the central premise of my argument, not that it matters as global computerisation is quite importantgrin

Elegran Sat 21-Jan-17 18:00:56

More to be affected by any central failure? No going round to the country next door to borrow a cup of electricity if theirs has failed too?