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hulahoop Wed 18-Jan-17 10:46:16

I feel for the young people who feel safer on the streets than at home because of abuse at home . With rents and house prices continually increasing unfortunately it will probably get worse !!

Marthajolly1 Wed 18-Jan-17 10:45:24

My thoughts exactly. As I pull my curtains every night whilst getting ready to turn in for the night I always give thought to the poor souls who have nothing, no comfortable warm bed. There seems to be a very large number of the population who feel the same as me and yet we feel so helpless. I try to stop to talk to people sheltering in shop doorways when Im in the town, and pass a bob or two before walking on feeling so inadequate. I dont have a lot but feel like a millionaire by comparison. What a complex world we live in.

notanan Wed 18-Jan-17 10:32:29

I often go to the library at opening times after dropping the kids at school so have gotten to know a few of the local "hidden homeless" who wait for it to open to bid on council flats. They camp on the outskirts of town because the hostels are dangerous. There's so many who aren't your steriotypical doorway addict (not that I don't have sympathy for them too, there's no support for recovering addicts, they're housed with active users and dealers). The "hidden homeless" are really stories none of us want to hear because they could be us: things like: landlord gave notice, couldn't find anywhere else, outstayed their welcome "sofa surfing".

Their tents regularly get vandalised, or reported to the council by dog walkers who then remove their tents sad

I also pass an active addict on the way to work every day, he slept in a well sheltered doorway of a commercial property that hasn't been used in a long time - at least he was out of the wind and the rain. He never did me any harm - he's the vulnerable one sleeping on the ground at the mercy of passers by… well the doorway has now been boarded up. What harm was he doing sheltered there?

Can you imagine if we destroyed all bird's nests and put up spikes on all tree branches so they couldn't make themselves a bit of shelter? We treat animals better than some humans.

KatyK Wed 18-Jan-17 10:28:14

We had to go into Birmingham city centre last night and we couldn't believe the amount of homeless people we saw. We had a three minute walk from the car to our destination and were stopped three times and asked for money. There were also other homeless people gathered together. It was appalling. I worked in the same city centre for 40 years but have never seen this many. Apparently people have set up food stations in the streets for them to go to. There but for fotrune.

Anniebach Wed 18-Jan-17 10:24:10

All those who sleep on the streets are individuals , different reasons for being homeless, different needs. What we think of as tramps were men who moved on , slept in sheds, most were alcoholics . Numbers increased after the two wars, we now know the cause was PTS with many.

Now some causes are alcoholism, drug addiction, high number of family break ups., young people who are not afraid to run from care and head for the cities. There was a time when many towns had Doss Houses but these were closed down.

Another problem is for some, they form their own communities, think of travellers, they stick together, friendships are formed and if given accommodation they miss their little communities, they don't feel they belong in any other world.

Regardless of their reasons for being on the streets thry need all the care and support we can give them, they don't need judging, just human compassion.

Lilyflower Wed 18-Jan-17 10:14:41

I agree. I feel that I live like a millionaire even though I am only a retired teacher on a reduced pension. A hundred years ago only kings and aristocrats lived with secure homes, good food, clean clothes, baths, heating, affordable health care and a good chance of having what one wants in life. Now it is ubiquitous.

Yet some do not share our good fortune and I rarely go out into poor weather and do not think of those who have to live outside in the cold, rain and snow. I feel desperately sorry for those who have, through misfortune and not choice, suffer on the streets.

trisher Wed 18-Jan-17 10:10:51

Some of you might be interested in proposals to make rough sleepers with bedding criminals- unbelievable as if they haven't enough problems. Check if your local council is proposing this. There has been an outcry in Newcastle
www.liberty-human-rights.org.uk/news/press-releases-and-statements/criminalising-homelessness-back-door-liberty-urges-newcastle-city
It's yet another example of how terrible our society is getting- as if people choose this life.
When we opened a local building to the public on HODs weekend the man sleeping in the porch stowed his bedding away and told us he tried to keep the area tidy by picking up rubbish-Makes you want to weep doesn't it!

moxeyns Wed 18-Jan-17 10:02:26

A young lad came to my door a couple of nights ago, one of those people selling bits as part of some scheme or other - he was just out of jail, it turned out. Now normally I smile and shake my head; but this boy was shivering with cold, with red chapped hands, and I couldn't turn him away. In fact, I invited him in, which my man friend thinks was ridiculously dangerous; it didn't feel so. The tale he told me was that if he sells 3 items, he gets a bed for the night. That made me so sad! (Although I only bought one...)

Griselda Wed 18-Jan-17 09:56:02

I can remember when there were hostels for tramps so they could spend the night with a basic level of decency. I remember visiting the USA in 1974 and feeling superior that we didn't have people sleeping in doorways.
I am now ashamed to live in a country that tolerates this.

Welshwife Wed 18-Jan-17 09:22:53

DD gives fruit to people if she can - the first time she did it she had just bought a big bag of oranges and asked a man if he would like a couple - she said the look on his face was wonderful and he told her he couldn't remember the last time he ate one.

petra Wed 18-Jan-17 09:05:22

A subject always close to my heart. My OH always gives food to a couple when he leaves the pub on Friday night. It started off a few years ago when he felt peckish after a few beers and they asked him for money. He gave them money and the food, and now it's a regular thing grin

annsixty Wed 18-Jan-17 09:04:54

Sometimes we get so taken up with the minutiae of our own trivial problems that we forget about those with little or no hope, so thankyou PRINTMISS for the reminder.
I will give some thought to how I can donate some warm clothing.

Alima Wed 18-Jan-17 08:54:39

A high percentage of rough sleepers are ex forces. What a way for them to have to live. On a cold morning like this it is a sobering thought. There but for.......

rosesarered Wed 18-Jan-17 08:51:30

I must add, that the churches in the centre and drop in places give a tremendous amount, not only hot food but warm coats/socks etc.There are some places to sleep inside as well.

rosesarered Wed 18-Jan-17 08:49:05

I agree PRINTMISS I always feel that too.
It has been a problem ( certainly in the cities) for a long time now, in Oxford 25 years ago there were a lot, apart from those with mental health issues, a lot were drug addicts.Add to that, family break ups and you can see how it happens, a slippery slope to rough sleeping.Really sad.

Christinefrance Wed 18-Jan-17 08:45:41

Exactly my thoughts this morning Printmiss. I was walking my dogs and it was bitterly cold, I thought about getting home and a nice hot cup of coffee. My thoughts turned to the homeless people and what it must be like not to gave the basic things I take for granted. I was only out for an hour but I was really chilled so how much worse for people on the streets. Many of the homeless people are there through force of circumstance, it could happen to anyone. At the library where I volunteer we are collecting warm clothing, sleeping bags and food etc for them, every little helps.

ffinnochio Wed 18-Jan-17 08:34:32

It must be utterly miserable.

A timely shout out Printmiss

PRINTMISS Wed 18-Jan-17 08:24:56

The morning here is bright and VERY cold. Every night when I go to bed I am thankful for a roof over my head, a warm bed and food in the cupboard, and then think of the folk who are sleeping rough. I have no idea what it must be like to have no soft bed, and very little to keep me warm, and then wake up with Nothing. What a terrible way to have to live, and yet this sort of thing seems to have become 'accepted'. Tramps have always been around, and I always understood that they chose their way of life, but so may people now seem to have no choice but to sleep rough. This is just my thought for the day, no political axe to grind, no solution to the problem, just a thought for those less fortunate.