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CariGransnet (GNHQ) Mon 16-Jan-17 11:08:45

sunseeker I am glad to say that we didn't see anything like that - it was a very sombre and respectful trip.

whitewave Mon 16-Jan-17 11:07:49

Yes venus you are right.

I've been looking at genocides since WW11 and these are the figures. These people need our rememberance too.

Cambodia. There were 7million of population in 1970.

4million of these died. A total catastrophe

Rwanda in 100 days up to 2million were slaughtered

Bosnia -the biggest mass genocide in Europe sine WW11

100 K were slaughtered

Darfur

480K.

Venus Mon 16-Jan-17 11:01:35

It is part of my families history but can't bear to visited the death camps.

What unspeakable cruelty that took place there should never be forgotten. . . but unfortuantely history has a way of repeating itself.

rosesarered Mon 16-Jan-17 10:58:25

I don't think that anyone will forget about it, there is so much information now, and all schoolchildren seem to have talks about it and visits to museums have exhibitions.
All Jewish people in particular, live with memories of what went on.
The nearest that the world came to it again ( not even close, though) was the camps and mass murders of villagers in the former Yugoslavian countries.

sunseeker Mon 16-Jan-17 10:54:20

I have often thought I would like to visit these places but whilst I would like to go to pay my respects part of me feels like it is turning into a tourist attraction, I'm sure many of us have seen the photos on social media showing grinning tourists taking selfies. angry

CariGransnet (GNHQ) Mon 16-Jan-17 10:52:29

Do let me know the name of it Katy. Yes I went a couple of years ago - I am glad I did even though it is obviously not an easy place to be. There were things I will never, ever forget, particularly the case of children's/babies' clothes and one large photo of a happy couple with their young daughter before the war and then an 'after' photo of the mother, skeletal and alone. The others died in the gas chambers.

rosesarered Mon 16-Jan-17 10:50:04

Have never visited, but have read and seen pictures of the Nazi concentration camps and what went on there.Thankfully, the world has not seen a repitition since of such planned evil and on such a scale, since.

KatyK Mon 16-Jan-17 10:35:29

I said to my DH yesterday that I would like to visit Auschwitz. Even saying it sounded wrong but I agree that we should never forget. There was a review of a new book on the subject in yesterda's Mail on Sunday which apparently reveals untold horrors.

whitewave Mon 16-Jan-17 10:25:10

Oh Cari!! And me. My son was saying that he felt very difficult, as he feels it is so important to see these places and try to understand how it got to such a bad place where one human can do such unspeakable things to another human. But he also felt a bit like a voyeur and I can so understand what he was saying.

I think that these things can happen in stages each stage worse than the last until the unthinkable happens. As a human race - we all share the same DNA- we need to learn to say enough!!

CariGransnet (GNHQ) Mon 16-Jan-17 10:13:35

I had met some of the people who were on the programme, I have been to Auschwitz and Dachau and Belsen, I have read very widely on the subject and still I sat there in tears throughout the whole thing. It never gets any less horrific - but nor should it. It's the only way we can learn from it

whitewave Mon 16-Jan-17 10:08:01

Yes Cari, it was incredibly moving

Lona Mon 16-Jan-17 09:54:21

Yes, I did Cari and I was in tears for most of it.

CariGransnet (GNHQ) Mon 16-Jan-17 09:52:16

Did anyone else watch Antiques Roadshow last night? It was on this very subject and one of the most moving hours of television I have ever seen. It's available on catch up

whitewave Mon 16-Jan-17 09:37:41

27 January

I feel more strongly than ever that this should be remembered, given the way the world is going.

Last week my son visited Dachau and it clearly profoundly affected him. It does not need me to say why.

As a teenager I remember when I first heard of the obscenity and not only found it difficult to believe but was naive enough to think that it would never happen again.
I was wrong.

Yesterday I got into a rather silly argument concerning refugees on GN. I allowed my emotions to override my objectivity.

I withdrew immediately, but have since been given it thought and realise that the images of the refugees remind me so much of those grainy images we so frequently see of camps such as Dachau etc. That is why I find it so difficult to be objective when talking of human suffering.

I think that days such as this coming up should give us all pause for thought and the way we are progressing (or not).

Clearly our ability to scapegoat has not deminished over the years, and I feel nothing but alarm at the way the divisions in Britain, Europe and the USA so often centre on "the other" . History gives a stark lesson as to where this can lead.