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Madmeg Wed 11-Jan-17 23:12:49

I'm aware I'm setting myself up for a slating on this, and am pretty good at slating myself.

Hubby and I are smokers. We have a biggish house (11 rooms) and only ever smoke in two of them - the breakfast room at the far end of the house with open window/door and a study which is sealed around the door. Both rooms have an expensive air purifying machine with carbon filter. We keep other room doors shut at all times and they are also sealed around the door.

We keep trying to give up (for ourselves) but haven't managed it. We often ask visitors if they can smell smoke in the house and they say not.

I know all about second- and third-hand smoke, so I'm fastidious about cleaning with sugar soap and vinegar any surfaces that could be touched by a child, and hoover carpets regularly. Obviously also food-preparation surfaces. I also wash curtains/cushions frequently - none of this because I am houseproud but to protect the children as much as I can.

We have never smoked around the grandchildren (age 4 and 2). We don't smoke at all on days we see them, whether at our house or elsewhere. We wear freshly-washed clothes - sometimes even new clothes - whenever we see them, which is not more than once a month and usually in their home, not ours, or at the park.

We have child seats in the car so never smoke in there. We either use our e-cigarettes or stop the car en-route and get out to smoke.

Despite all this our daughter is still not happy about us looking after the kiddies even at her own house, and less so at ours. She will put up with a visit to us at Christmas, for a few hours only, but we have never been allowed to have them stay overnight. If she is desperate she will ask us to have them at hers for a morning, but would rather it were not at all unless we give up smoking altogether.

I know the smoking is preventing us from having a fuller share in the grandchildren's lives, but we have done absolutely everything we can to minimise any possible risk to them apart from the obvious.

Does anybody have any constructive comments to make, and yes, I am prepared for the worst!

FarNorth Sun 15-Jan-17 21:55:32

That was wonderful, paddyann.

Get that self-discipline cranked up, Meg! All the best to you.

wot Sat 14-Jan-17 22:30:46

Good luck, Meg. flowers

paddyann Sat 14-Jan-17 22:23:09

my son was born 11 weeks and 5 days premature,he spent his first 7 weeks in an incubator,my llate father in law was a very heavy smoker and we told him that there would be no way we would allow smoke around the baby after all he'd been ventilated for weeks and a lot of effort into making sure his lungs were OK ,My father in law and I weren't close,in fact we didn't get on for a long time and he was by then in his 60's a smoker since he was 13...BUT he stopped there and then and never smoked again.We were so pleased and he had a brilliant relationship with our boy and spent a lot of time with him ,so if you want the same with your grandkids ,thats the answer

Jayanna9040 Sat 14-Jan-17 21:42:58

Luck sorry!

Jayanna9040 Sat 14-Jan-17 21:42:35

Good luc Meg. I wish you many healthy and happy years with your grandchildren?

Madmeg Sat 14-Jan-17 21:30:04

Wow, thank you all for those comments. I've only just discovered how to get back to my post!

I think it is clear that some people are more sensitive to the smell of smoke, even when others can't smell a thing, and my dd is one of former. So, it has to be done, for all the reasons you give.

We gave up smoking before the kids were born and started again in our late forties during a period of intense stress.

I tried Champix a few years ago, it washed all the sodium out of my body and I had to come off it pronto.

I am already overweight (not grossly) and when I gave up previously I put on two stones and never lost it. It was 18 months before the craving even diminished and I always said it was the worst 18 months of my life.

So, think of me. Getting out the diary now to choose a date.

Meg

wot Sat 14-Jan-17 20:37:52

I love to read these posts where people have succeeded in giving up. I'm still off the ciggies and would recommend Champix to anyone wanting to stop. My partner was on sixty a day and has had no cigarettes for nine days thanks to the Champix. I feel sick most of the time on these tablets but it's worth it! Gone completely off alcohol as well!

Corncob Sat 14-Jan-17 20:19:01

I smoked from the age of sixteen. The amount slowly crept up to forty a day by the time I was sixty. I could not afford to smoke as they were well expensive. I went to my GP and he sent me to their stop smoking clinic. I was given a drug called champix. I found I just stopped enjoying the ciggies and stomped them out. That was seven years ago.Now I hate the smell when around smokers. I sometimes get the urge when stressed but it soon passes.No way would I ever start again

wot Sat 14-Jan-17 19:39:22

Now it's chocolate with me.....suddenly developed a taste for it instead of cigs! (Especially the chocolate Santas from Lidls)

GrandmaMoira Sat 14-Jan-17 11:00:36

Wot - I don't think the cravings ever go completely. I'm 5 years smoke free and still occasionally have cravings though I hate the smell now and it makes me cough. I just think when you're a smoker you're always craving a cigarette. As an ex smoker you only occasionally crave one and have the health and financial benefits.

Madmeg - I think only giving up will satisfy your daughter. It's your choice.

Linsco56 Fri 13-Jan-17 20:11:42

wot My DB tells me he still has an occasional craving for a cigarette and he stopped over 30 years ago.

I remember him nibbling on cocktail sticks for months on end grin.

Keep at it, you're doing well.

hulahoop Fri 13-Jan-17 20:07:59

I gave up smoking when smoking was banned indoors I just thought I'm not going to stand outside in all weathers I carried an open packet around for weeks which for me helped because I could have one if I wanted but chose not to . I had tried before but halfhearted . I don't like the smell now and I am glad I gave up hope you both manage it ?

wot Fri 13-Jan-17 20:02:24

I truly would like to know when the cravings for cigs will go because they keep coming back to taunt me. Not as often, I admit, but still plaguing me.

FarNorth Fri 13-Jan-17 19:10:11

Madmeg carry on enjoying your cigs, just don't admit to it. It's nobody's business, if you and your house don't smell of tobacco what is the fuss about.

And if you both pretend to be non-smokers but your daughter still notices the smell about you or your house, then you will know you were wrong.

I'm guessing your daughter grew up with the two of you smoking around her, didn't like it much at the time, possibly was concerned for your health but has abandoned hope of you ever stopping smoking so is starting as she means to go on, regarding her children.

dorsetpennt Fri 13-Jan-17 18:50:49

It does come to this , what's more important , seeing your grandchildren or having a fag ? You know the dangers so why are you still doing it ? I also think your daughter is concerned for your health too. This could be her way of making you face up to your options . Give them up and enjoy your grandchildren . I'd give up anything for my two, I love spending time with them .

Eloethan Fri 13-Jan-17 18:23:10

Given the amount of precautions you take to make your large house almost smoke-free, I think it is absolutely ridiculous. You are not smoking in front of your grandchildren and they are not exposed to your smoke in any way. I think most smokers would agree that it is wrong to expose other people and children to their smoke but that is not happening in this case. Having said that, I really don't know how you can deal with this issue without having a massive row about it.

Any child who lives in the vicinity of traffic - and I imagine that very few children live somewhere so remote that there is virtually no traffic - is every day inhaling car emissions. In London - and probably other busy cities and towns - the "safe" level of pollution has already been exceeded on most days this year.

I'm inclined to think that successive governments rather like people to be obsessed with smokers because then it directs their ire towards individuals and diverts it away from governments who should be making more progress in dealing with vehicle and industrial pollution.

Takingthemick Fri 13-Jan-17 17:59:24

Let those without sin cast the first stone. Madmeg carry on enjoying your cigs, just don't admit to it. It's nobody's business, if you and your house don't smell of tobacco what is the fuss about. There is such a long list of 'Bad' things these days I wonder how the human race has got this far. Sorry to remind everyone but we are all going to die one day. I don't intend to give up everything I enjoy just to end up in a so called 'care' home being washed by a underpaid overworked person.

Jayanna9040 Thu 12-Jan-17 17:54:58

I guess the question is, does the OP want to see more of her grandchildren or would she rather carry on smoking. Only she can answer that.

annsixty Thu 12-Jan-17 17:45:20

But absolutely true.

Ana Thu 12-Jan-17 17:17:09

Yes, that's really going to go down well and help family relations! grin

grannypiper Thu 12-Jan-17 17:11:04

tell your DD that she is being way over the top, you are not smoking beside the children or wearing clothes that you have smoked in. Ask her how many miles she drives a week and if she ever lets her children go outside of their home, if the answer to the first question is more than 0 she has double standards, as she pumps plenty of fumes in to the atmosphere and if the answer to question 2 is yes then she is a seriously bad mother for allowing her children out in to a polluted atmosphere ( a atmosphere she helped pollute)

Christinefrance Thu 12-Jan-17 16:30:51

I can't believe the measures you take Madmeg, it surely has got to be easier and cheaper to give up smoking. I speak as an ex smoker.
It's entirely up to the children's parents if they don't want them exposed to passive smoking however well controlled the environment is.
Go for the cold turkey option and have fun with your grandchildren.

ajanela Thu 12-Jan-17 16:18:20

Jay Anna, "What else is there" there is a daughter who controls when OP can see their grandchildren who is not happy with them smoking.

I use to run NHS smoke stop classes and there is no set way to give up. Everyone finds their own way with the help of all the advice and support out there and willpower and determination.

OP every time you try to give up you learn something and are nearer to doing it. 3 weeks is the time it takes to get through the side effects of withdrawal from nicotine. The last week can be the worst. Nicotine is more addictive than heroin so this is not an easy task. Maybe doing it with your husband could be good but if he falls by the wayside that is not an excuse for you to smoke or vice versa. Study all the advice, look for support, prepare yourself by identifying areas of risk and think of coping strategies. Good Luck.

Jayanna9040 Thu 12-Jan-17 14:48:52

Exactly MssAdventure. They're not exposed to the smoke itself, they don't see their GPs smoking and think it's Ok, so it can only be the smell. What else is there?

Daddima Thu 12-Jan-17 14:06:28

I'm wondering why Meg goes to all that bother to protect the children from smoke when they're so rarely at her house.

Go on, Meg, just bite the bullet! Don't think about it as giving up, more " getting rid"!
Set a date for getting rid. If there's one fag you think will be hardest to do without, ditch that immediately. Think about things you might find a problem after you're smoke free( usual ones are weight gain and stress) and plan how you're going to deal with them ( stock up on fruit & veg, practice deep breathing, make a tape/playlist of music to calm you down or cheer you up)
Plan out your first smoke free day so you're avoiding temptation, then it's " one day at a time"
You can do it!