plastic £5 notes

I just am warm, scottie. I think it's something to do with having had my thyroid removed years ago, and having thyroxine all the time. My metabolism is permanently regulated.

However, if wool made you itch, what would you do?

The new notes are less likely to become contaminated with cocaine.

I feel happy about that.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/09/25/plastic-banknote-cocaine_n_3982373.html

dj (bless her little cotton socks)

I get cold if I don't wear wool or silk. How to you manage to keep warm?

Also, I have never had a new fiver. I get my cash from machines which only ten to give 10's or 20's. Are they still made of paper?

There was an old lady in the bed next to me (years ago now) who was very disoriented and shouted every five minutes night and day for a nurse.
They were very good with her and tried to explain things to her. I felt sorry for the nurses.
However, what do they do? Leave someone to die or treat them in the best way possible and try to explain what they are attempting?

I don't think she was vegetarian, Jalima, but all she had was soup and drinks, as far as I can recall. This was over three years ago.

Elegran, not fighting at all. I just asked if you'd read the rest of the information you gave us. Have you?
I found it very informative.

When you are 80+ years old, Jalima, and you don't know where you are or what's happening to you, you are not thinking about whether having maggots eat your flesh or dying of MRSA is the better choice, I wouldn't think. She had to have bars put up at the side of the bed and an alarm on her mattress to stop her getting out of bed because she could not walk on her own. The rest of us used our alarms to ring for her more than ourselves. It was pretty awful.

I agree, the loss of habitat for many species because of increased demand for palm oil in so many products is more worrying as far as I am concerned, but I am not vegetarian.

Was the woman in hospital crying because of the thought of being treated with maggots (ugh!) and she was scared or did she object because she was vegetarian?

It is supposed to be a very effective treatment for non-healing infected wounds and for getting rid of MRSA, so better to put up with that than suffer a chronic infection or die from MRSA i would have thought.

You are fighting the empty room again, dj Have you been accused of being wrong in trying to source them? Or wrong in being concerned about prions and transmissable BSE? You are making my factual posts into argumentative ones. Not every action has to have an equal and opposite reaction, let alone a greater and escalating pre-emptive or defensive attack.

As if I didn't have enough to worry about, Jalima!

if someone has already posted this, apologies, I have been out all day.
Now going to watch WDYTYA

Did you read all of that 2005 article, Elegran?
The concerns about prions and transmissible BSE?

The last paragraphs said about trying to use animal-free polymers.
The reason they use animal products in things is that they are cheaper than comparable plant or mineral products. Like bone china, which I will never buy.

Is there anything wrong with trying to source animal-free products? Doesn't harm anyone else.

Never thought about packaging, Jalima. What packaging did you have in mind?

djen I don't know exactly what packaging, but this is from their website:
Innovia Films is a leading global producer of speciality high performance Biaxially Oriented Polypropylene (BOPP) for food packaging, tobacco overwrap, security and labels.
www.innoviafilms.com/

As I predicted - plastics manufacturers often use additives of animal origin to improve material properties and/or to aid in processing of raw polymers That is, in products like "products manufactured from plastic materials include flexible tubing, sanitary fittings, cylindrical tanks, carboys, powder-handling bags, capsule filters, and flexible film-based containers used for storage and mixing of process fluids." plus plastic bags of course.

De La Rue, who make bank notes for the three main Scottish banks, has found that more detailed analysis revealed animal derivative equivalent to a maximum of 0.003% per banknote.

De La Rue De La Rue released a statement which said: "Our initial analysis of our supply chain suggested that our polymer substrate did not contain any traces of tallow, and we advised specific customers on this basis.

"However, recognising the concern expressed by the public in recent days, we have undertaken a detailed and thorough review of our polymer supply chain. This review has identified the potential for minute traces of animal derivative, equivalent to a maximum of 0.003% per banknote.

"We are now working with our suppliers to identify ways of addressing this."

I certainly wouldn't have accepted treatment by maggots, however old I was!

Don't see your point regarding sheep having no choice. Left to their own devices they'd be eaten from the inside by maggots and if sheared they wouldn't be. Wonder which optiion they'd choose if they could?

The alternative to the warmth of wool or fur in cold climates is fleece made from oil derivatives.

She didn't, though, did she? Otherwise it wouldn't have been happening. She was in her eighties. People that age tend to do as they are told in hospital.
I felt sorry for her, even if you don't.

Sheep don't have the choice.

The woman could, of course, have refused the treatment.

It's a choice, Ceesnan. If you are worried about sheep and maggots, etc., then surely the fewer there are to get eaten from the inside the better.
I've been in hospital next to a woman who was crying because she was being treated with maggots on her infected leg. Not a sight I can forget either, nor the fact that the doctors were standing round discussing it while we were supposed to be eating our breakfasts.

Think I will go read the Gardening Forum

But by saying "Stop eating meat and using wool" you are, in effect, encouraging a boycott! What is the difference?

I didn't say 'get everybody to boycott it.' I said stop eating meat and using wool. There's a difference.
At least I am not responsible for Granarchist's sheep problems.

That concept is a little naïve, get everybody to boycott it and the problem goes away