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Gransnet today....Just my opinion.

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merlotgran Sun 27-Nov-16 11:43:46

Don't want to completely hi-jack the 'Christmas in four words' thread so I've started this one. Feel free to shoot me down. I don't do flouncing. grin

Some time ago, the 'What does Gransnet mean to you?'thread developed into a 'Bring back jingl' campaign. Despite this, it has become clear that we are not entitled to an explanation as to why she is still shackled to the naughty step

We inhabit a goldfish bowl which must be respectable to the outside world looking in on an ageing cyber community. Old people are only expected to be curmudgeonly in books and TV nonsense. Manufactured threads about growing old disgracefully are perfectly acceptable so long as they fit the approved template which has been set by people who are NOT as old as we are.

All well and good until a situation causes a ding-dong. We must be ever mindful that Gransnet is a business relying on advertising revenue. Swearing is tolerated on Mumsnet because it's acceptable in the young and feisty whereas the 'one foot in the grave' club have to leave all that behind and remember our opinions don't really count any more.

The political threads are argumentative because that's politics. You can't put a straight jacket on a well informed if opiniated point of view which is as it should be. Folk who hide behind the sofa when all hell breaks loose should know better than to get caught in the cross-fire.

So....We're allowed to moan about Brexit, complain about our aches and pains and chat about telly dramas/adverts/music. We willingly offer support to complete strangers even though it often comes back to bite us. I'm not the only one who can spot a set-up. Above all, we must remain bland!

There were two members who railed against this. One is sadly no longer with us and the other has been kicked into touch for being too outspoken. Unsurprisingly, they rarely saw eye to eye but that's LIFE!

I'm off to put the joint in the oven. I might even start a thread about it. hmm

Only joking!

DaphneBroon Mon 05-Dec-16 22:14:41

No grannyknot, it is fu' as in "full"!!

Elegran Mon 05-Dec-16 22:18:37

Isn't there a saying something like, with beer you're full before you're fu' but with whisky you're fu' before you're full? I may have got that wrong.

Elegran Mon 05-Dec-16 22:21:40

It'll sink under its own weight soon, Daphne it is floundering already.

gillybob Mon 05-Dec-16 22:28:52

Am I right in thinking that means

"Go (away) and boil your head" Daphnebroom ? grin

I know what the term "Jessie" means I just wondered if anyone knew why Jessie?

Elegran Mon 05-Dec-16 22:36:00

I wonder if it is because the man's name Jesse is so like the woman's name Jessie, so a big Jessie is a sweetie-wife (great soft lump of a man)? That is just a guess.

Linsco56 Mon 05-Dec-16 22:43:40

And then there's the Jakey! Usually a hopeless drunkard.

"See that auld Jakey? He jist papped his empty superlager can ontae the verandah."

Granny23 Mon 05-Dec-16 22:48:58

Having no idea why 'Jessie' I decided to Google it (I'm surprised that Elegran didn't beat me to it wink ) This is what I found:

Jessie : noun a weak or effeminate man.

A Scottish and northern English term of ridicule which has become widespread since the mid-1970s, partly due to the influence of comics such as the Scot, Billy Connolly. It is synonymous with nellie and big girl’s blouse.
There are two proposed derivations for the word; the first is simply a borrowing of the female name as a term of endearment, the second is a Biblical reference to ‘a rod out of the stem of Jesse’, giving rise to jokes on the subject of masturbation, etc.

OOOer, Missus.

Now I'm wondering about CISSY as in a big cissy = a mammy's boy.

Elegran Mon 05-Dec-16 22:55:46

Back to Google, Granny23?

Elegran Mon 05-Dec-16 22:58:47

Sweetie-wife is another word I've only heard in Scotland. I don't think it means a gay man, more a rather sentimental one - many a grandfather who is definitely not gay admits to being a sweetie-wife.

Elegran Mon 05-Dec-16 23:06:10

Cissie/sissie - I have found references linking it with Cecil/Cecilia, meaning blind. That could be a link to meaning weak and unmanly.

Elegran Mon 05-Dec-16 23:07:53

Or it could be one of those pseudo-explanations, assuming a link because it is similar.

annodomini Mon 05-Dec-16 23:33:00

I don't know if this word existed or if it was my mother's invention but in our household a mummy's boy or softie was known as 'a big tumfie'.

annodomini Mon 05-Dec-16 23:36:02

Drunk was 'fu' as a puggie'. According to the Urban Dictionary, a 'puggie' in Lowland Scots is a monkey.

Linsco56 Mon 05-Dec-16 23:36:44

I remember that expression but I think it was a 'a big tumshie'

Galen Mon 05-Dec-16 23:40:08

Isn't fou in 'Tam o Shanter?'

Granny23 Mon 05-Dec-16 23:44:35

Yes indeed Galen Tam was 'gettin fu and unco happy'

I think unco is a shortened form of uncommonly.

Galen Tue 06-Dec-16 00:09:24

He thinks not on the Lang Scots miles

Granny23 Tue 06-Dec-16 01:11:04

The mosses, waters, slaps and styles
That lie between him and his hame
Where sits his sulky, sullen Dame
Gaitherin her brows like a gaitherin storm
Nursing her wrath tae keep it warm.

FarNorth Tue 06-Dec-16 01:46:34

Monkey?
I always knew a puggie as a belly/tummy.

Tumshie is a turnip.

Jane10 Tue 06-Dec-16 06:14:54

A puggy, as in 'fu as a puggy' is a fruit machine/slot machine. It was expected to be full of small change.
Jessie for effeminate male was in common use long before the 1970s!

DaphneBroon Tue 06-Dec-16 07:52:49

"Puggy " in my part of the Borders meant "truant" and the School Attendance Officer was universally known as "the puggy man"

Grannyknot Tue 06-Dec-16 08:13:10

Thanks Daphne and everyone. smile

grannyqueenie Tue 06-Dec-16 08:32:54

My mum.used to say she was "puggled" if she'd eaten to.much and talk about someone being "fu as a whelk" if they'd drunk too much and she always complained of "hirpling" if she'd walked a lot! Isn't language fascinating? grin

DaphneBroon Tue 06-Dec-16 10:02:42

"Fair puggled" = knackered!

gillybob Tue 06-Dec-16 10:14:56

A turnip has always been a "Snadgie" to me FarNorth

We always called the truant man the "wag man" as in "playing the wag", (not that I ever did).

Thank you for your explanation re Jessie Elegran and Granny23 I still can't understand why Jessie though as there are other shared male/female versions of names. As Johnny Cash said, "Life aint easy for a boy named Sue" grin