Gransnet today....Just my opinion.

seacliff any one of the "tens of thousands" of members that GN boasts reports as having (and that was in 2013).

Understood and agree Ana - comes of posting whilst also listening and trying to sound interested in son going on about computer games at same time!

Wish I'd seen that return Merlot.Who on earth would report that!

Sorry seacliff - sometimes hard to tell when someone is serious (emoticons can sometimes help...)

seacliff, jingl did make a brief but hilarious return one night. Those of us who know her posting style spotted her immediately but unfortunately the report buttons were fired into action and by lunchtime the following day she was gone.

How awful it is to think that we're at the mercy of those who think they are holier than thou superior in their attitudes.

Ana I was joking/being sarcastic. Seems very extreme to me that some one is banned, especially for good.

Day6 now that's more like it.

I doubt it was something really terrible, seacliff. Have you been here long?

I miss the posts from soontobe.

We think that the forum is the centre-pin of the whole site, but then we would, wouldn't we?

Good point, gknot, about it being a business.

Does anyone know if Jingle would like to return, if allowed?

I don't know what went on behind the scenes, it must have been something really terrible to warrant a lifetime ban??

Grannyknot - probably because no one really misses that particular poster. (Can't think why they would)

Addition and apology to the above post. Grandads join in too, don't they? They too are of a generation of men who know what it's all about. The world of grandparents is very different now from the one in which my Grandad and Granny lived.

Good post merlotgran,

'Above all, we must remain bland!' One of my worst fears...that I become bland. F*ck that for a game of soldiers, eh?

Most of us came from that liberated generation. We worked as well as raising children and keeping a home. Some of us did that without a partner too. We are strong women, worldly wise and grateful that we were able to study too, educate ourselves in Universities or just the University of Life. We've faced it all....except war perhaps, but we've seen an incredible amount of changes in our lifetimes, and look at us now, typing away on our computers to communicate. I take my hat off to us. I raise my glass to us, Grannies one and all and incredible women.

Something I have learned in my 60+ years on this planet is that you silence us at your peril. If I want to swear I shall. Are e shockable? I doubt it. We've lived long enough to have heard it all. If moderators think we should be always pleasant, then I'd suggest they don't know us, or me, very well at all.

I don't feel the need to swear just for the sake of it, so I probably won't on-line, but please, get with the programme moderators at Gransnet. We are not grey haired old ladies and men who do not a lot but beam, grumble and crochet/mow the lawn ffs.

Bland? We're not, are we? Heaven forbid.

Why am I even posting on this thread?

If GNHQ decide to tell someone to sod off ban someone, they can do so, because it's their business. That's all there is to it, actually.

I'm sure JBF isn't the only person ever banned. E.g. why aren't we all falling about saying "Come back soon, all is forgiven".

Quite.

Looking back, and including threads like this, I think I have read more nasty posts about her than by her.

Being told to sod off by the likes of Jingle is not 'personal'. It's an expression of irritation. Geraldine and Josie, two of the originals at HQ, understood that.

So, yeah, I'm fighting for her to have the right to tell me to sod off again if she thinks I've said something stupid enough to need sodding off.

Jings told me to sod off more than once. I much prefer that to mealy-mouthed dare not say anything in case somebody's, anybody's feelings are hurt.

We cannot know what will hurt other people's feelings, especially on as large a 'sheet of paper' as Gransnet is, with the whole gamut of human characters that it contains.

Vive la différence and allow people to speak freely. It's the basis of a free and democratic society.

I see no problem with being controversial, the thing is do not get personal, and willing as I am to fight my corner, and I am always ready to get stuck in and have a heated discussion, with most people, at times, even a duel, but what I find more tedious than anything is when two people just start slanging each other of, or worse, still, argue as to whether they are slanging each other off; 'No,I am not', 'Yes, you are' 'Anyway you said something nasty about me first'

Surely the one thing we old dears ought to be able to show the young'uns is the skill of having a heated discussion without descending to personal jibes.

As to subjects, I thoroughly enjoy the contentious serious issues but who really wants a long trail of worthy subjects? Bread isn't bread without yeast, and Gransnet isn't Gransnet without some frivolity.

No saint, any more than any of us, but not an arch-sinner either.

Jing was not as harsh as she sometimes sounded. About 6 months ago I said something to her, can't remember what, on a thread. I really upset her and she said I had spoilt her holiday which she was on at the time. I PMd her and apologised as it was not my intention to cause her upset. I got a lovely reply and all was well

I realised then that perhaps Jing was an old softie at heart who just had the unfortunate knack of upsetting people.

OMG let's all elevate Jbf to sainthood, I'm sure the future of GN does not depend on her return.