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Hooray - the Conservatives won the election!

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FarNorth Sun 13-Nov-16 17:10:13

Several people on GN made posts saying something like " Hooray - the Conservatives won the election! "

I'd like to ask if they, or anyone else who agrees with them, have seen the film "I, Daniel Blake" and, if so, have they any comment to make?

www.theguardian.com/film/video/2016/jun/15/i-daniel-blake-trailer-ken-loach-palme-dor-winner-video

People who were not happy when the Conservatives won the election, please do not post on this thread.

rosesarered Sat 19-Nov-16 14:23:42

Well, it will have to be BANG then, because no posters own a thread or can tell others what to say.

Anniebach Sat 19-Nov-16 14:21:06

Seems posts praising him are accepted, any criticisms and bang

rosesarered Sat 19-Nov-16 14:17:37

I think we can ALL bring Corbyn into this thread if we choose so to do trisher and you only find it boring because it is criticism of a leader ( I use that term loosely grin)
Who is lacklustre at best, but who you think is the moon on a stick.

Anniebach Sat 19-Nov-16 14:05:47

I replied to a question on May drinking £300 wine - I didn't mention you know who, back comes a reply about you know who, yet I am accused of bringing you know who into discussions

Jalima Sat 19-Nov-16 13:59:24

There is lots of sounding off against Mrs May on many threads too.

However, she is the Prime Minister and her government is in power.
Which many people think will never happen with the Labour party and its present leader (lots of Labour supporting people I mean).

see how I managed not to mention his name wink

Anniebach Sat 19-Nov-16 13:55:59

Then explain how you can discuss Corbyns policies without mention of him?

trisher Sat 19-Nov-16 12:11:53

Because you constantly refuse to discuss anything else and derail discussions all the time. Has it never occurred to you that people stop listening and the result is actually the opposite to the one you desire? Incidentally if I criticise you you call it 'sniping' but you constantly call people with views to the left of yours "Corbynistas" and "militants". Is that more acceptable? I have informed you that I am neither but you refuse to accept this. I've tried to move things in other directions and the fact that you can't discuss other things I find very worrying

Anniebach Sat 19-Nov-16 11:58:10

Then why not try ignoring me, your constant sniping will not stop me posting my views on that man

trisher Sat 19-Nov-16 11:46:36

Once again this post has become Anniebach sounding off against Corbyn. Wouldn't it be nice if we could discuss something else instead? I've no objection to her airing her views but hearing the same thing over and over again is sooo boring.

Anniebach Sat 19-Nov-16 11:18:57

So labour MP's received death threats, some Labour MP's were threatened with deselection before Corbyn? No way, I am puzzled that you have been a member for years yet can deny this .

Explain why posters , labour supporters on this forum have left? They were bullied .

Sorry Jrn but you have become a small group who attack anyone who cannot accept Corbyn is a good leader, you will deny it but it doesn't change the fact it is true.

I critcise Corbyn and get really nasty posts , it's all unpleasant and upsetting . Accused of attacks on Corbyn? He is a politician , people criticise politicians .

I have never agreed with militancy and never will

You constantly bring up Blair and Iraq, even claimed he was my favourite leader, so childish, I was against the war but here are two facts for you

After we went into Iraq people still voted for a labour government

After the loss of the 1983 election, caused by the party going to far to the left labour couldn't get reflected for fourteen years . How can you claim to have been a labour supporter during those years yet never mention how difficult campaigning for the party was?

I am sure Trumps election has boosted your hope for s Corbyn win, it will not happen Jen, this country will not vote for a far left party , ask any political historian , not militant bloggers

durhamjen Sat 19-Nov-16 10:53:22

By the way, that actually is your opinion, not fact. If you can back it up with statistics it will be fact.

durhamjen Sat 19-Nov-16 10:52:10

You mean like others are on this site? There's quite a lot of aggressive and intolerant bitchiness towards Corbynites on here.

Will you please explain what you did mean as both Eloethan and I obviously got it wrong?

Anniebach Sat 19-Nov-16 10:46:44

One thing which is not my opinion but a fact, since Corbyn became leader there is a nastiness in the Labour Party which I have never experienced in fifty years . Many corbynites are aggressive and intolerant

Anniebach Sat 19-Nov-16 10:42:51

Yes, I am sure you read it the same way Jen

durhamjen Sat 19-Nov-16 10:40:37

Explain what you meant, then, as I read it the same as Eloethan.
With the policies that Labour had, they lost the last two elections. That was nothing to do with Corbyn. He increased his majority both times.

Anniebach Sat 19-Nov-16 09:55:29

And you Elethan hsve misread my post yet again . You will miss me when I am off line for a few weeks , you will need to find someone else to nit pick at , tough

Eloethan Sat 19-Nov-16 09:34:18

Anniebach All those aims that you list - "homing the homeless" etc. - are very commendable but you may recall that the platform upon which the Labour team fought the last election was to continue with the austerity policies of the Conservative government, with just some very minor "tinkering about".

Once again, you are accusing people of being "bitchy" but you quite frequently set the tone of the discussion by making unpleasant and sarcastic comments.

durhamjen Fri 18-Nov-16 23:38:22

Theresa May didn't buy the wine herself. It was at a dinner for rich people, at the Mansion House, where she was giving a speech about the new global elite.

durhamjen Fri 18-Nov-16 23:36:08

Such a shame. Where do you get your unbiased information from?

' Politics.co.uk is the UK's leading political news website among MPs and members of the public

With over 150,000 visitors a month, Politics.co.uk's team of journalists produce their stories from deep within the corridors of power in Westminster, where they were the first digital journalists to gain access to the lobby.

Politics.co.uk is an impartial political website with no political affiliation, which prides itself on standing out as an independent voice in a landscape where the norm is to nail your colours to the mast.

Our coverage is informed, in-depth and independent. Our news section provides detailed and revealing coverage of goings-on in Westminster, with added analysis to shine a light on complicated developments. Our comment section promotes challenging and provocative perspectives on controversial issues and brings together experts from across society to provide an inside account of the stories in the news. Politics.co.uk was one of the first websites to use liveblogs to cover major political events, an innovation which is now industry standard across the internet. We still push the envelope on live coverage with our witty take on live events and rolling analysis of developments.'

Anniebach Fri 18-Nov-16 23:33:05

Needless for me to voice my opinion on the costs for Buck house.

Anniebach Fri 18-Nov-16 23:31:00

Sorry Jen I don't read blogs ,

Yes your links are I am sure pertinent to the thread but I am sure they are not balanced ,May allegedly drank wine £300 a bottle, is her husband wealthy? It's such a weak argument Jen, if she drank cider no difference , it's what she does to help or not that concerns me

durhamjen Fri 18-Nov-16 23:15:16

I read far right rubbish as well, and centre rubbish. However, most of the comments and links I make are usually pertinent to the thread.
Should we not be talking about things like this instead?

www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2016/11/17/rich-right-wingers-are-leading-a-phoney-war-against-the-libe

The left is allowing itself to be split, and in the meantime you can get people like Theresa May drinking wine at £300 a bottle while destroying the welfare state yet saying she stands up for the just managing.

Anniebach Fri 18-Nov-16 22:11:09

And trisher,as you believe criticisms of Corbyn by posters is just a continuation of a carefully set trap by newspapers, I think the refusal by Corbyn fans to accept he is less than perfect is caused by too much trawling for and reading of far left bloggers rubbish

Anniebach Fri 18-Nov-16 21:43:31

Nothing to do with personality , all to do with the fact that without a leader who can win votes across the country talking policies is pointless.

Let's home the homeless - when we win the election

Let's stop these brutal benefit cuts - when we win the election

And trisher I may criticise Corbyn but I don't constantly have digs at certain posters in almost every post

Pity you hadn't said lets talk about policies - without the usual bitchiness attached

trisher Fri 18-Nov-16 20:53:08

We could try talking about policies instead of falling into the carefully set trap that began in the popular press and is continued by some people, who for one reason or another, choose to make it about the personality of one person. The problem is I suspect that actually the policies are the real policies of the Labour party and it is difficult to pick holes in them.
Anniebach do you really think that other party leaders (especially Tony Blair) didn't have lists of MPs who didn't agree with them?