Karma

Ohhps Karma

That should have read :he got away with it -& then died before justice or Kama could be done !

But sadly there is no justice for people who have suffered real devistation ie Saville etc

It is sometimes satisfying when a small retribution occurs to someone who you think deserves it (you know the ones who are always dishing it out !!) Some call it Karma , or just a 'Yes 'moment . It's what I call justice. ?

I feel for all the people who were abused by jimmy saville and I'm so sorry for the people who have lost pensions because of philip green.

Now, what am I getting away with

I think thats really defending the indefensible He had what seems a very close loving (strange almost incestitious ) life with his mum, the duchess, he had a wonderful career with millions of adoring fans, and friends in very high places I never saw that arrogant smile that 'I own the world and can do what the f... I want to anyone and everything' as sad mentally unbalanced, psycopathic , narcissistic maybe but sad no

And I agree if karma existed he would have lived to see his downfall

He seemed to lead such a sad distorted life. He was a complete social misfit and he knew it. The only way he could get some sort of pleasure in life was forcing himself on others. No love. Not much of a life.

Well, to be fair Mojowic we don't actually know that for a fact, so can't rule it out.

I do not believe in karma. If it was real, Jimmy Saville would have had his just desserts.He won't get them in his afterlife.

Kitty I share your feelings!

Now, here is an example of satisfaction at someone's misfortune. Some years ago DD1 was due to sit her A-level French and was unable to attend. A man burst into the exam hall with a flame thrower and turned it on some of the pupils sitting there, 1 of whom would have been my DD if she had been there. Three of the pupils were seriously injured, including a close friend of DD. He was terribly burnt on his face. The perpetrator was arrested and jailed. While in jail, he was diagnosed with stomach cancer and died not long after. Sorry to all the posters recommending peace, love and forgiveness but I couldn't bring myself to feel sorry! If you had seen that young lad's face........

Like I said, Karma is a personal, private thing to the believer. In my understanding, it’s like a bank account you pay into and withdraw from. And because we are only human, we try to pay in more than we withdraw.

I don't harbour negative thoughts about me exsil but that doesn't stop me being pleased when negative things happen to him especially as the spell didn't work.

ann, I'm sure you have never done anything that warranted the trials you are suffering now!

Life is random. There is no force out there dispensing justice or we would all be in the soup! Karma is the harm you inflict on yourself by harbouring negative thoughts or actions and the effect that then has on your life and your relationships. It's all about you!!!

My H has dementia but as I said up thread I have long thought that I was very bad in a previous life or maybe earlier in this one.

But Ann he cannot have the life he hoped for with his second wife because she now has dementia

Ann, the problem I have is the pick and choose just when this karma strikes

Your friend's husband second wife developes dementia - karma

Was it karma that she was left devasted when her husband left her, had she caused harm in her life?

Your knee is giving you problems, is this karma for hurt you have done?

I'm sure lots of you have come across my (and other people's) rants about sons in law who continue to cause problems for their daughters and grandchildren. I am not bitter - how could I be when I have two fabulous grandchildren - but I am fed up of the Idiot mucking about with their lives and do have a quiet smile when his life has a hiccup. I'm not bitter but human.

What ever happened to the concept of forgiveness? Karma is a buddist concept and it would never, ever, be condoned to wish it upon someone. That is totally against the idea of karma.

"Karma is certainly something to cling to when confronted by someone who is being nasty to you." NO That is not "Karma"

Ths thread is all about revenge It has nothing to do with karma. Just call it revenge instead

The satisfaction is not that the person has developed dementia for goodness sake. It is that the H is not having the !ife he expected when he abandoned his wife and mother of his sons and married a very well off woman who now can't go on the holidays he had planned and it is very sad she can't enjoy life either.

Quite, annie.
ann someone up the thread said they had been waiting 15 years for karma to strike, or something similar. That struck me as bitter.
You only have to look at that other thread to see raw bitterness.

How can there be any satisfaction when a person developes dementia

I don't think that we are harbouring bitterness or actively hoping something awful will happen.
Rather it is the quiet sense of satisfaction when something goes awry in the other persons life.
A very dear friend of mine was devastated when her husband left her after 39 years of marriage. He told her he had never been happy in all that time. She is the kindest and most generous of people. She has taken me out every week since my knee has been bad.
He moved on very quickly, so quickly the new wife had obviously been in the picture for some time.
Not too long passed before the second wife developed dementia and my friend, who doesn't talk badly about anyone, just said " I wonder if he still thinks the grass is greener" Perhaps that is what I think of as karma. Nobody wished it, it happened.

I agree with you eloethan and I think that harbouring bitterness instead of putting things in the past where they belong is perhaps a factor in some illnesses and conditions.

"Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional". I'm sorry, though I suppose it's tempting to hope that something good can come out of physical or emotional pain, I find this a very difficult concept. In reality, can little children being blown up, losing limbs or losing their parents, really be thought to be able to benefit spiritually, psychologically, intellectually or emotionally from such trauma?

I, and I expect many people, have on occasion found themselves fleetingly hoping that someone who has hurt them gets their "comeuppance". Though it may be a common and sometimes understandable reaction, I don't really think it's a very admirable or healthy one. I think to experience pleasure at hearing the news that someone is slowly dying from a horrible illness is quite chilling and I believe that feeling such bitterness must be quite corrosive.

Still do not believe in Kama sorry, if a drunk driver mows someone down then the victim accepts it? no anger, just total acceptance ?