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How judgmental are you?

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kittylester Wed 24-Aug-16 11:54:18

Fairly early on in my life with GN, I posed the same question. That time it was prompted by outside events but this time it is prompted by some terribly bad tempered threads lately.

So, how judgmental are you? Am i totally beyond the pale just because I voted Tory and read The Times and DM?

MargaretX Wed 24-Aug-16 16:13:34

I suppose I am judgemental and maybe I hurt people sometimes but if I imagine a Forum where everyone agrees or says Yes Dear! You are so right. I would soon get bored.

I was brought up to question what others say and why they say it and if it is true and if I can agree with it.

harrigran Wed 24-Aug-16 16:20:51

Yes I am judgemental when it comes to certain people. On the day of the referendum one of DD's friends got annoyed at the result and told me that "no intelligent life force ever emerged from your town" Excuse me? DD came from the same town so she was insulting her too. I have forgiven DD but I will never forget her reaction toward us at the referendum.

mumofmadboys Wed 24-Aug-16 16:36:05

I imagine we get less judgemental as we get older and realise that few issues are black and white and most are a shade of grey! I think I was far more opinionated in my youth than I am now!

BlueBelle Wed 24-Aug-16 16:39:14

Gosh I m the opposite of that was far too shy with little confidence when I was young life's knocks and my fighting spirit has made me more able to have stronger opinions now I m older
Good or bad I don't know

rosesarered Wed 24-Aug-16 16:52:41

I don't judge a person, but do judge what they say...of course, this is a forum that demands opinions, so we have to have some grin
All this old tosh about what a poster reads, and calling them everything under the sun if they dare vote anything but Labour is simply ridiculous.I think the worm may be turning in this respect at the moment though, as I have noticed more 'Strong ' posts from posters not prepared to put up with it.The world really isn't black and white, and as we get older we see this more and more.If we don't, then it's either ignorance or naivety.

granjura Wed 24-Aug-16 17:01:48

ahaha under the sun - I would definitely draw the line at The Sun ;)

rosesarered Wed 24-Aug-16 17:06:59

Well, there you go Granjura you are officially outed as judgemental! grin

kittylester Wed 24-Aug-16 17:09:35

I'm not sure what to think about your comment to me. gjconfused Am I beyond the pale or not?

Some people become more entrenched as they get older though don't you find roses

rosesarered Wed 24-Aug-16 17:14:11

Yes Kitty some do, but then we come back to the ignorance or naivety thing, because most people, having lived as long as we have, have been around the block a time or two, and know that there is no black and white for most things.

Ana Wed 24-Aug-16 17:19:08

Yes, and the DM does have redeeming features - it has run several successful campaigns which were in the public interest.

obieone Wed 24-Aug-16 17:27:04

It is fine to judge behaviour, as in that behaviour is good or bad, but not fine to judge a person, as in that person is a good or bad person.

But being judgemental about So, how judgmental are you? Am i totally beyond the pale just because I voted Tory and read The Times and DM?
A poster or person who is doing that, is judging behaviour which is ok, but as the behaviour is not bad in anyones' eyes[nor by God!] the person has got it wrong.

Unless someone can explain how reading the Times, The Daily Mail, and voting Tory is a real sin, which is a silly question isn't it?!

Newquay Wed 24-Aug-16 17:27:30

DH walks to our local newsagent every morning and buys the DM. I would much prefer another paper-I think he likes it for the sports coverage-always starts to read a paper from the back page. I find it a very contradictory paper (can't really call it a NEWSpaper!). They get on their moral high horse about things and then promptly have articles/cartoons that make light of the self same things.
Often I flick through it and say something like-am at page 17 and little news yet. . . .
Don't want to waste money buying another paper.

obieone Wed 24-Aug-16 17:32:35

As regards forgiving and forgetting.
Ironically there is a person in real life who forgives[good], but as the person can never forget anything it seems, has got quite hurt.
And I dont actually know what to say to that person.
The person is also holding things against people which is not good beahviour, and I do think that person could make more of an effort in that particular regard, and I intend to tell them. But perhaps it is quite a difficult thing to actually do?

TriciaF Wed 24-Aug-16 17:45:11

My DH has a wonderful ability to forget things. We might have had a big row over breakfast, mostly my fault, he went to work. I was worrying about it all morning and rang him to apologise. He'd forgotten all about it smile

obieone Wed 24-Aug-16 17:53:48

My DH used to be the same. It was wonderful!
Unfortunately he remembers things better nowadays! grin

cornergran Wed 24-Aug-16 17:56:26

People are complex, our history impacts on our views, it is inevitable that we will not always agree with expressed ideas and thoughts and that somewhere we compare what we hear with our own thoughts and opinions. One way of thinking about this issue is that as there is a continuum of views there is also a continuum of desire and ability to be open to the views and beliefs of others. Whether we agree or disagree about an opinion it's important to remember that opinions are just that, they are not necessarily fact and they do not necessarily define the character of the person. Do we all make judgements? Professionally we may be trained not to, in our private lives surely we must, but we don't have to use the difference in views as a stick with which to beat others.

kittylester Wed 24-Aug-16 17:58:56

Well put corner.

granjura Wed 24-Aug-16 18:25:18

That's ok Roses, thanks

Kitty, not at all - I have many excellent friends and family whose opinions are very similar to yours - and we get on very well- even if we disagree fundamentally at times. Many of them very religious too, and I am a total atheist/humanist.

granjura Wed 24-Aug-16 18:27:03

BTW is it judgemental or judgmental?

AS said though, saying that someone is 'judg/e/mental' is in itself very judg/e/mental ;) by its very nature.

Bellasnana Wed 24-Aug-16 18:29:20

I do try not to judge others and would certainly not do so on any forum since I do not know the people personally.

Having been judged unfavorably myself when I gave birth to DD2 as an unmarried mother in Malta, I vowed I would not be so quick to judge others. I was made to feel as if I was the lowest of the low and it took me a long time to get over it.

Some people will probably think I deserved it, but I now know I did not.

Swanny Wed 24-Aug-16 19:01:51

When we all lived in caves it was important to be judgemental and quick about it too - our lives depended on it. Zillions of years later we've learned it's best to know a bit about someone before you attempt to make a sound judgement.

Don't judge a book by its cover or a person by the newspaper they read. A college lecturer acquaintance, around 1980 I think, gave an example of The Sun being the most popular newspaper bought by men. Those present all groaned and judgementally said 'yes, Page 3 girls', whereas the horse-racing pundit they employed was the most successful tipster on a daily paper at that time and was the main reason for its popularity

Jalima Wed 24-Aug-16 19:57:55

I don't judge someone who sends their child to private school or uses private healthcare; as far as I'm concerned they are paying for both through their taxes, not availing themselves of the provision and there is one less child in an over-crowded classroom and a shorter NHS queue.

DH is always judgmental about people who drive Beemers as he thinks they show off and overtake dangerously!!

Although I do admit being judgmental today in M&S (but tried to keep quiet) when the assistant on the till loudly proclaimed that he did no recycling whatsover at home, even though M&S has a recycling policy and he has to adhere to it at work. He told all and sundry that recycling was a way of the Government trying to control us. The woman in front agreed with him and said she left recycling to pensioners who have plenty of time to get on with it shock
I did try not to start a fisticuffs in the middle of M&S!

ps I am judgmental about The Sun
And am very anti-Guardian since the Edward Snowden debacle.

There!! I am officially judgmental grin

granjura Wed 24-Aug-16 20:31:29

Must have been hard for you bellasnanna.

On GN members often open threads which ask for advice or opinion, or discussions about complex and at times difficult subjects- so opinions and points of views, even if passionate or 'strong' are certainly appropriate. I must say I am amazed when people clearly ask for advice and opinions, then take massive umbrage when the result is not what they want to hear.

Deedaa Wed 24-Aug-16 22:15:01

Jalima isn't everyone judgemental about people who drive Beemers? I had one on loan for a while and found it a very disappointing car.

I am awfully judgemental but try to keep it to myself. On the other hand I can be very wishy washy liberal.

DH never bothers about recycling because he saw all the recycling being tipped into on bin about 15 years ago!!!

durhamjen Wed 24-Aug-16 22:47:40

Newquay, the i only costs 40 pence.