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Is it just me or is this quite bizarre??

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Izabella Tue 23-Aug-16 09:35:28

It is interesting and as death is part of life I don't see why it should be seen as san me thing terrible. I used to take groups of student nurses around a large city one years ago. A few felt uncomfortable but many said that it helped - allayed fears and they were impressed with the compassion of the staff.

rosesarered Tue 23-Aug-16 09:33:57

Yes, two issues here.Babies born prematurely, or stillborn babies were always either buried or cremated with unknown ( to the baby's family) deceased people.It Was the case when we lost a baby ( hospital said they would take care of things) we didn't find out until later what happened, but were told it was always the case.Had I known, I would have wished to make our own arrangements.
I would be quite interested to look around a crematorium, particularly if it was a local one.We have a brand spanking new one just opened this last year, looks so much nicer than all the depressing old ones, and after all, although one day I will be there, I won't actually be in any position to look around with interest!

Lona Tue 23-Aug-16 09:06:05

I think it sounds interesting, I like to know how things work. Death is a fact of life.
As christinef says, the cremation of babies is a separate issue.

Christinefrance Tue 23-Aug-16 08:47:58

Yes I think it could be interesting to actually see how it all works. We do tend to shy away from all things death related.
The issue around the cremation of babies is a whole different matter.

Greyduster Tue 23-Aug-16 08:47:41

My sister went to an open day at our crematorium. She said it was fascinating hmm. I'm afraid it would not be something I would want to do. I remember in the sixties travelling on the Pullman service from London and getting into conversation with a very nice (youngish) man who had designed a new crematorium for Grantham and he was on his way to look it over prior to the official opening. He said if I was willing to break my journey, he would like to give me a guided tour and then perhaps take me for a meal afterwards. I politely declined. If it could be classed as a chat up line, it had to be a cut above "come up and see my etchings". I rather regretted that I hadn't afterwards.

Anya Tue 23-Aug-16 08:23:56

Cremation

Anya Tue 23-Aug-16 07:11:50

Around here the problem with creation of babies is that their families have not been able to even have their ashes returned and this was not made clear before they agreed to cremation. Therefore the parents had nothing of their dead child.

The problem 'appears' to be that the design of some crematoria was very poor. Not architecturally, but with the actual burning and capture of small amounts of remains as in babies and small children sad

mumofmadboys Tue 23-Aug-16 07:06:12

Irina I went on a tour of the Paris sewers years ago. It was fascinating! Amazing to think all this was going on under the streets of Paris!

thatbags Tue 23-Aug-16 07:01:56

People like looking round graveyards and the churches associated with them, both for the human stories and the architecture. Why not crematoriums (crematoria?) too? Could be interesting.

I don't think there's anything intrinsically immoral about cremating the bodies of dead babies. Why would there be? We cremate dead adult bodies. What's the difference? Especially if hospitals have just been left to "deal with" the dead babies' bodies, which I presume is what has happened because if parents wanted to have a funeral for their dead child, presumably they would.

Speculation isn't going to help though, so why don't we wait for the results of the investigation?

But the fact remains that it is no more wrong to cremate a dead baby than it is to cremate a dead adult, so why the sensationalism in the press?

Bellasnana Tue 23-Aug-16 06:50:41

I would find it interesting, I think. Just wish we had one in Malta. 2016 and still no option to be cremated.sad

kittylester Tue 23-Aug-16 06:33:28

I think it might be comforting. A couple round here have open days too.

Ilrina Tue 23-Aug-16 00:06:59

Nope, enough depressing things in life without visiting a crematorium unless one has to.

Having said that I would like a trip around the Paris sewers, wonder if you can still do that, and out of interest has anyone here done it?

durhamjen Mon 22-Aug-16 23:45:42

My husband designed his about 25 years ago. They are necessary buildings. Perhaps people should visit them before it's necessary to go there for someone's cremation.

Katek Mon 22-Aug-16 23:41:40

A fellow N'easter!! No, the picture didn't exactly mske you rush out to join the queue(!) did it?

SueDonim Mon 22-Aug-16 23:28:59

I've just read about that in the EE. The accompanying photo didn't make it look very enticing. I won't be going.

Katek Mon 22-Aug-16 23:19:36

Nothing at all, but this was built in 1975-a decade not renowned for the quality of its architecture. It's not like visiting Roslyn Chapel.

durhamjen Mon 22-Aug-16 23:03:22

My husband once designed a crematorium. Nothing wrong with seeing them as architecture.

Katek Mon 22-Aug-16 22:53:20

It was discovered that babies had been cremated alongside unrelated adults and parents told there were no remains to bury/otherwise dispose of. Meanwhile other families had unknowingly been given the final remains of these infants along with those of their deceased relatives. There has been a major inquiry into infant cremation practices across Scotland led by Dame Elish Angiolini.

granjura Mon 22-Aug-16 22:37:10

Why not. What was the bad press re premature infants btw?

Lisalou Mon 22-Aug-16 22:26:16

Nope, not something I would want to visit. You go to such places when you have no choice, in my view.

nanaK54 Mon 22-Aug-16 22:21:30

Hmmm nope wouldn't Float my boat either

Katek Mon 22-Aug-16 22:19:13

Aberdeen is about to have its Doors Open Day event which is supported by Scottish Heritage and allows access to buildings/architecture not normally open to
the public. This year, however, the crematorium and its inner workings have been added to the list! The city council has had some very bad press recently regarding cremation of premature infants - this seems to be some sort of macabre PR exercise. I haven't yet spoken to anyone who plans to go and FB is full of adverse comments. It's not exactly a fun day out is it?